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#2979273 - 10/12/12 08:27 PM Killing does to increase buck sightings
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So if you want to raise the buck-doe ratio, then you kill does.... now let's say in less than 100 acres of isolated but prime habitat with lots of deer, what's a general number of does you would aim for? Just curious here.
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#2979283 - 10/12/12 08:38 PM Re: Killing does to increase buck sightings [Re: catman529]
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If you killed everyone you saw it wouldn't be enough to get the ratio where it needs to be..... Just remember when the rut starts the bucks will be where the does are.
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#2979315 - 10/12/12 08:59 PM Re: Killing does to increase buck sightings [Re: catman529]
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 Originally Posted By: catman529
... now let's say in less than 100 acres of isolated but prime habitat with lots of deer, what's a general number of does you would aim for? Just curious here.

One.

In the absence of other meaningful data, my "rule of thumb" is one female per 100 acres. Add to this "rule of thumb", don't kill any more males than females.

 Originally Posted By: Roost 1
..... Just remember when the rut starts the bucks will be where the does are.
Not necessarily.
They will either be roaming their rut area, or will be with an estrous doe within their rut area. The fewer the females, the more time those bucks will be roaming around their area. But even if there were no females, they wouldn't necessarily leave their rut area. IMO, most hunters have a better chance in seeing a buck when it's looking for a doe rather than with a doe.

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#2979344 - 10/12/12 09:12 PM Re: Killing does to increase buck sightings [Re: Wes Parrish]
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 Originally Posted By: Wes Parrish
 Originally Posted By: catman529
... now let's say in less than 100 acres of isolated but prime habitat with lots of deer, what's a general number of does you would aim for? Just curious here.

One.

In the absence of other meaningful data, my "rule of thumb" is one female per 100 acres. Add to this "rule of thumb", don't kill any more males than females.

 Originally Posted By: Roost 1
..... Just remember when the rut starts the bucks will be where the does are.
Not necessarily.
They will either be roaming their rut area, or will be with an estrous doe within their rut area. The fewer the females, the more time those bucks will be roaming around their area. But even if there were no females, they wouldn't necessarily leave their rut area. IMO, most hunters have a better chance in seeing a buck when it's looking for a doe rather than with a doe.
in all my years of hunting,where the does are,the bucks will be at the right time

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#2979350 - 10/12/12 09:16 PM Re: Killing does to increase buck sightings [Re: Wes Parrish]
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The most important thing you can do is pass 2 year old bucks....they're more likely to be there in the future.

My farm is a doe sink....I've killed anywhere from 2-7 every year for over 10 years, and been killing them for the last 20 years here. As a result, I just have more transient doe fawns and yearlings moving into the area. Most does I kill are 2-3 years old. Rarely kill one older here. The deer population is more than 50/mile here so nothing I do will really help that much.

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#2979353 - 10/12/12 09:18 PM Re: Killing does to increase buck sightings [Re: catman529]
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 Originally Posted By: catman529
So if you want to raise the buck-doe ratio, then you kill does.... now let's say in less than 100 acres of isolated but prime habitat with lots of deer, what's a general number of does you would aim for? Just curious here.




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IF your goal is to kill mature bucks, the more does during the peak of the rut, the better. i know, i know, the term carrying capacity and herd stress will probably emerge. but it is a simple fact, if you have a high number of unpressured does, during the rut, you will have mature bucks.


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#2979670 - 10/13/12 09:07 AM Re: Killing does to increase buck sightings [Re: redblood]
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Im with red blood. I started killing mature bucks when i quit killing does with firearms. I still shoot them with a bow but not with any kind of gun.
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#2979791 - 10/13/12 11:37 AM Re: Killing does to increase buck sightings [Re: muddyboots]
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Interesting thread here
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#2979907 - 10/13/12 02:16 PM Re: Killing does to increase buck sightings [Re: muddyboots]
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 Originally Posted By: muddyboots
Im with red blood. I started killing mature bucks when i quit killing does with firearms. I still shoot them with a bow but not with any kind of gun.
I guess I was referring to killing them with a bow in early season before the rut. Didn't say that, but that's what I had in mind.
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#2979909 - 10/13/12 02:21 PM Re: Killing does to increase buck sightings [Re: catman529]
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 Originally Posted By: catman529
 Originally Posted By: muddyboots
Im with red blood. I started killing mature bucks when i quit killing does with firearms. I still shoot them with a bow but not with any kind of gun.
I guess I was referring to killing them with a bow in early season before the rut. Didn't say that, but that's what I had in mind.


Im not very good at killing them that time of year. In fact i hae never killed a mature buck early season. Did shoot at one once. Used twenty yard pin and he was 25. I can still see him.
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