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#2977869 - 10/11/12 08:43 PM Re: blackhorn powder and cva optima [Re: BACKWOODS BOY]
BACKWOODS BOY
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i have noticed*** sorry typing in the dark lol
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#2977870 - 10/11/12 08:45 PM Re: blackhorn powder and cva optima [Re: BACKWOODS BOY]
ratsnakeboogy
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Western powders used to modify your plug for free if you sent it to them. Not sure if they still offer that.

What sabot are you using? If it's an easy load, switch to a regular sabot. It will load a bit harder but will seat firmly over the powder charge and help with powder ignition.

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#2977880 - 10/11/12 08:50 PM Re: blackhorn powder and cva optima [Re: ratsnakeboogy]
BACKWOODS BOY
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its just the barnes 250 gr. tez there blue..i got a couple tc shockwaves laying around reckon they would be worth trying?
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#2977896 - 10/11/12 08:58 PM Re: blackhorn powder and cva optima [Re: BACKWOODS BOY]
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go to the link above and watch the video
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#2977976 - 10/11/12 09:29 PM Re: blackhorn powder and cva optima [Re: FrontierGander]
BACKWOODS BOY
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i understand now just seems like alot of hassle lol pay this kind of money and then have to "fix it" before ya can use it..but it did look nice as far as keeping your gun cleaner
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#2977980 - 10/11/12 09:31 PM Re: blackhorn powder and cva optima [Re: BACKWOODS BOY]
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not a lot of hassle. Its better than shooting and shooting and then having the frame so full of primer soot that it takes steel wool to remove it, along with removing the nickle finish off the frame.

Most guns these days had breech plugs made to work with the other subs, then BH209 came out and made it a new ball game. You can order the BH209 from cva for around $20

Keeps your gun cleaner and shooting a lot more consistent

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#2978033 - 10/11/12 09:44 PM Re: blackhorn powder and cva optima [Re: ratsnakeboogy]
smyrnagc
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 Originally Posted By: ratsnakeboogy
It is not a bad batch of powder. It will not burn worth a crap if it's not loaded under pressure. Trying to light it with a lighter tells you nothing, it reacted the way it was designed to react.

1. You may not have a bullet/sabot combo that is tight enough to seat firmly over the charge.

2. Your breech plug may not be set up for BH209. I'm not familiar with your gun enough to tell.

3. Your primer is not hot enough. Try a mag 209 primer.

4. Combination of the above.

Don't give up on it, you just haven't figured it out yet.


X2...the sabot has to be snug and tight. Also, the primer is key. I use CCI209M or Federal 209. Never had an issue since making this change.
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#2978105 - 10/11/12 10:22 PM Re: blackhorn powder and cva optima [Re: BACKWOODS BOY]
ratsnakeboogy
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 Originally Posted By: BACKWOODS BOY
its just the barnes 250 gr. tez there blue..i got a couple tc shockwaves laying around reckon they would be worth trying?


The blues are probably not tight enough, see if you can find some Harvester black sabots, or even the shockwave black sabots. Try that and mag primers before you order the new plug. You do need to keep the flash channel clean with the drill bit though. Turn the bit by hand.

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#2978111 - 10/11/12 10:25 PM Re: blackhorn powder and cva optima [Re: ratsnakeboogy]
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The 250 TEZ is a great bullet, don't change it. Just change sabots.
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#2978150 - 10/11/12 10:56 PM Re: blackhorn powder and cva optima [Re: ratsnakeboogy]
fastbs
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Just got an optima from gander mountain. Moded it like my old cva wolf by drilling out the breech plug with a #64 drill bit and adjusted the head space.
Shooting 90gr by volume bh209 with a 300gr hornady xtp and mmp sabot. Used cci primers.

Shooting with the oe fiber optic open sights here's 5 shots at 100yds. Had to put something dark on the target to aim at. Im pretty happy with the results, could probably make some really nice groups with a scope.


Every couple shots I clean out the hole in the breech plug with a small straightened paper clip. The breech plug would sometimes get clogged in the cva wolf.

Gander mountain is running a $50 off $250 sale till this weekend (I think) which makes the ss/black optima about $225 shipped after taxes. Regularly 249.99 had to add a small item to make $250.
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