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#2974107 - 10/09/12 09:41 AM Re: BSK or anyone else who knows a lot about scrapes [Re: BSK]
Food Plot 101
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x 2 on the hoof size. my brother shot a 2.5 yo 9pt. dressed about 130#. Same morning I shot a 3.5-4.5 yo 10pt. dressed at 170#. His 9pt. had much larger hooves, and the deer were killed 3 miles apart. Sorry to hi jack.
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#2974190 - 10/09/12 10:41 AM Re: BSK or anyone else who knows a lot about scrapes [Re: Food Plot 101]
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 Originally Posted By: Food Plot 101
x 2 on the hoof size. my brother shot a 2.5 yo 9pt. dressed about 130#. Same morning I shot a 3.5-4.5 yo 10pt. dressed at 170#. His 9pt. had much larger hooves, and the deer were killed 3 miles apart. Sorry to hi jack.


This deer is not very large but has a very big foot (2nd biggest I've seen) Wish I had a pic of his track (I know that I've seen his track in my salt lick as he is the only buck that used it for three weeks)


Also, as in humans and many other animals, you could most likely form a scatter plot of foot to body size and see a positive line of best fit with outlier points from the abnormal deer.. of course I've never done this research but it seems logical

Either way the spot looks promising and I'm going to hunt it tomorrow. Even if I was 100% sure it wasn't his foot-I'd still hunt it due to how heavily used the trail is.
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#2974196 - 10/09/12 10:43 AM Re: BSK or anyone else who knows a lot about scrapes [Re: Food Plot 101]
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I'm in the camp of those that will hunt clusters of scrapes (kinda) but choose to hang/hunt stands downwind of the scrapes rather than right over them. A grown buck will often simply pass downwind of scrapes to scent check them, and keep it moving (oftentimes WELL downwind).

It took me a few years and several missed opportunities to figure this out and exercise the discipline to back off. If it's a mature buck you're after it might be worth investigating a stand location that's not right on top of the scrapes.

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#2974884 - 10/09/12 07:46 PM Re: BSK or anyone else who knows a lot about scrapes [Re: Master Chief]
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 Originally Posted By: Master Chief

Also, as in humans and many other animals, you could most likely form a scatter plot of foot to body size and see a positive line of best fit with outlier points from the abnormal deer.. of course I've never done this research but it seems logical


This research has been done, and there really isn't even a positive relationship. It is far more random than one would assume.
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#2975124 - 10/09/12 10:08 PM Re: BSK or anyone else who knows a lot about scrapes [Re: BSK]
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 Originally Posted By: BSK
 Originally Posted By: Master Chief

Also, as in humans and many other animals, you could most likely form a scatter plot of foot to body size and see a positive line of best fit with outlier points from the abnormal deer.. of course I've never done this research but it seems logical


This research has been done, and there really isn't even a positive relationship. It is far more random than one would assume.


Guess it's just one of those things I think about more than I need too \:\)

btw-I got a pic of a deer using a mock scrape today. The cam only had 3 pics. 2 were 100% white outs. The pics were yesterday but the leaves are falling so much I could hardly see the scrape.


Now that salt licks are inactive I'm experimenting with what to do with my cams. Other than putting them on trail I haven't had much luck though.
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#2975294 - 10/10/12 06:57 AM Re: BSK or anyone else who knows a lot about scrapes [Re: Master Chief]
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Master Chief,

Right now I'm getting mixed results from real and mock scrapes. Some bucks stop and investigate the scrape and some just pass it by. Still a little early for intense scrape use.
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#2975681 - 10/10/12 11:47 AM Re: BSK or anyone else who knows a lot about scrapes [Re: BSK]
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I hunted were I found the tracks today. Seen 6, one was a small 8. He was followiing a doe and grunting. I know that doesn't mean much yet but it was cool.

Hopefully I'll be back there tomorrow.
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#2975837 - 10/10/12 01:55 PM Re: BSK or anyone else who knows a lot about scrapes [Re: Master Chief]
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Here's a couple of mine on a mock scrape along the edge of a small food plot:



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#2975886 - 10/10/12 02:32 PM Re: BSK or anyone else who knows a lot about scrapes [Re: BSK]
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I like that first buck, looks like he has great potential.
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#2975892 - 10/10/12 02:35 PM Re: BSK or anyone else who knows a lot about scrapes [Re: Master Chief]
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 Originally Posted By: Master Chief
I like that first buck, looks like he has great potential.


A 2 1/2 year-old 10-point missing his browtines, making him only an 8-point. We see VERY few 2 1/2 10-pointers, so yes, excellent potential.
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