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#2972200 - 10/07/12 08:42 PM Re: Public Ground [Re: landman]
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#2972204 - 10/07/12 08:46 PM Re: Public Ground [Re: landman]
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1 can tell easily by reading my user name that i wonder around piblic ground a touch. I killed an 8pt on catoosa and an 8pt on bridgestone firestone last year. along with three does all with a bow. I scout very hard, walk way to many miles and swear at myself everytime its gets dark and im nowhere near the truck. All of the public land i hunt is getting more and more people every year. I walk 1.7 miles to my spot at firestone. Im still a blundering idiot compared to most. But i see more deer and have better success when i hunt away from the majority. I try to figure out where people access the land and hunt the places deer slip away. My pitiful advice would be to get where the people arent. the best oak flat in the forest wont do ya any good if theres people all over it
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#2972454 - 10/08/12 05:31 AM Re: Public Ground [Re: bowriter]
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#2972472 - 10/08/12 06:17 AM Re: Public Ground [Re: BrokenArrow]
richmanbarbeque
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Not all public ground is created equal. A lot depends on hunting pressure, terrain features(or lack of), season dates and several other factors. For one to pat himself on the back and say it is easy on any wma is foolish. I have hunted some that was like hunting private property and also some that had so much pressure that all deer was close to being nocturnal. We arae so lucky to have as much as we do but don't kid yourself some of it is very tough to hunt. BUT it is a great learning experience.
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#2972596 - 10/08/12 08:41 AM Re: Public Ground [Re: richmanbarbeque]
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Mud Dauber
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 Originally Posted By: richmanbarbeque
Not all public ground is created equal. A lot depends on hunting pressure, terrain features(or lack of), season dates and several other factors. For one to pat himself on the back and say it is easy on any wma is foolish. I have hunted some that was like hunting private property and also some that had so much pressure that all deer was close to being nocturnal. We arae so lucky to have as much as we do but don't kid yourself some of it is very tough to hunt. BUT it is a great learning experience.


I agree. There is some public land that is just brutally difficult and problematic to hunt, despite holding decent amounts of deer.
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#2972599 - 10/08/12 08:43 AM Re: Public Ground [Re: landman]
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Mud Dauber
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 Originally Posted By: landman


I think a lot of the traffic is coming from the Media, Outdoor stories, Hunting Shows, even sites like this....The same reason land sales got Hot in Illinois and Kentucky the word gets put out there everywere, people who have never heard of a Refuge or Presidents Island(I never heard of it until I got on here) Hunters want to show their Kills off and the word gets out


You mean that there are people hunting public land to prove that they can kill big deer on it? That could be a factor in some spots, but I think that most of it is economics.
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#2972636 - 10/08/12 09:06 AM Re: Public Ground [Re: Public land rat]
Happy Birthday Savage
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 Originally Posted By: Public land rat
1 can tell easily by reading my user name that i wonder around piblic ground a touch. I killed an 8pt on catoosa and an 8pt on bridgestone firestone last year. along with three does all with a bow. I scout very hard, walk way to many miles and swear at myself everytime its gets dark and im nowhere near the truck. All of the public land i hunt is getting more and more people every year. I walk 1.7 miles to my spot at firestone. Im still a blundering idiot compared to most. But i see more deer and have better success when i hunt away from the majority. I try to figure out where people access the land and hunt the places deer slip away. My pitiful advice would be to get where the people arent. the best oak flat in the forest wont do ya any good if theres people all over it


Thats tough doin's right there. Last year, opening morning of bow season at Firestone, there were 36 vehicles. I think its about 15,000 acres, and probably less than 2000 is accessible.

As someone said, not all public ground is created equal. For example, the first morning I ever hunted Ft. Campbell, I saw 14 deer, two shooter bucks.

I hunted Catoosa for a week last year, and saw 3 deer. Obviously, this year I've worn out a pair of boots, and anticipate things being a little different!
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#2972677 - 10/08/12 09:28 AM Re: Public Ground [Re: Savage]
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Poser- How far can you walk into the woods. It is a simple statement, yet, everytime I asked it in one of my seminars, I had very few right answers.

On most public ground, the answer is not very far before you reach halfway. Then you are walking out. So, a guy walk two miles back in the woods to avoid human traffic. Another guy on a different road does the same. They end up huntnig on top each other.

The truth is, most hunters walk by more deer than they will ever see. You said my statement was stupid. had I said hunt right by your truck, although surprisingly effective, that might have been stupid. What I said was in effect, the biggest mistake hunters make is hunting too far in the woods. Most of them are walking so far in, they are walking out. If my statement is stupid, so is yours. We said the same thing. Some go too far, some don't go far enough. However, by far my best public land stands have been in places hunters walk by and are within sight of the road.

The hunters walk in in the dark. The deer hold tight and let them walk by. 7:30 maybe 8:00 the deer get up to cross the road. Bowriter puts his apple down and thwak!

The key is, just pick the right spot. It isn't just any tree near a road. It is the right spot near a road. The places no hunter in his right mind would hunt. That is why the deer are there.
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#2972705 - 10/08/12 09:46 AM Re: Public Ground [Re: bowriter]
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Mud Dauber
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 Originally Posted By: bowriter
Poser- How far can you walk into the woods. It is a simple statement, yet, everytime I asked it in one of my seminars, I had very few right answers.

On most public ground, the answer is not very far before you reach halfway. Then you are walking out. So, a guy walk two miles back in the woods to avoid human traffic. Another guy on a different road does the same. They end up huntnig on top each other.

The truth is, most hunters walk by more deer than they will ever see. You said my statement was stupid. had I said hunt right by your truck, although surprisingly effective, that might have been stupid. What I said was in effect, the biggest mistake hunters make is hunting too far in the woods. Most of them are walking so far in, they are walking out. If my statement is stupid, so is yours. We said the same thing. Some go too far, some don't go far enough. However, by far my best public land stands have been in places hunters walk by and are within sight of the road.

The hunters walk in in the dark. The deer hold tight and let them walk by. 7:30 maybe 8:00 the deer get up to cross the road. Bowriter puts his apple down and thwak!

The key is, just pick the right spot. It isn't just any tree near a road. It is the right spot near a road. The places no hunter in his right mind would hunt. That is why the deer are there.


You are still assuming that all public land is circular and has access from all sides. That is simply not the case. Furthermore, some areas are very large -tens of thousands of ares. Sure, you are walking past deer to get to where you are going. For that, matter, you are driving past deer to get there. The reason that one may go to a secluded spot is to get to a area where the deer do not experience pressure and therefore, feel comfortable moving during daylight hours. Or, maybe it is a terrain funnel that any deer passing through will have to use. Again, the key is to zero in on where the deer are and where the hunters are not. This could be 30 feet from your truck or 3 miles, but there is no hard fast rule that walking too far in is a mistake. I think you are taking an example from one WMA and trying to apply that to all WMAs and, as other public lander hunters on here have vouched, you simply cannot do that. Some areas have singular access points, are cut off by lakes, rivers, swamps and sloughs. Others are cut off by cliff lines and mountains. In other cases, you are only allowed to park in certain areas,and, while the WMA may be small, walking a mile down the road and then stepping 75 yards into the woods may be the key to getting away from other hunters. Use you head. Use your feet. Use your head AND your feet, if necessary.
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#2972708 - 10/08/12 09:49 AM Re: Public Ground [Re: bowriter]
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bowriter that reminds me of a big, old oak tree I walked by in a thicket right next to the foot travel road and parking area in a rather large and popular tract of land in Yanahli. I thought to myself, everyone who hunts here probably walks far past that tree, as I myself walked far past it. I bet I could kill a deer there if I wanted to.
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