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#2971773 - 10/07/12 12:19 PM BSK or anyone else who knows a lot about scrapes
Master Chief
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This morning I decided to hunt were my big trail cam buck was till 8:00 then scout, it's a salt lick so I didn't expect to see much. As expected, I didin't see anything in stand so I climbed out and looked around. As soon as I got to a whiteoak, maybe 60 yards from the lick, I found a nice trail with his tracks fresh in it. I followed it around the ridge and decided it looked good enough. Then I walked back up the middle of the ridge and found a large scrape in a patch of small poplar trees. It didn't have a licking branch though, what does that mean? Does it matter? There was a 2" tree demolshed about 5 yards away and a little dime size rub.

I started too pee in it but looked up and saw a doe trot off. I knew were she went so I waited a bit then followed. When I got to were she was standing I noticed she had been bedded by a tree with another deer. I ended up stalking them in a patch of kudzu. Unfortunately I couldn't get any closer and can't shoot good enough at 40 so I just let em be and moved my stand 20 yards from the scrape and trail.

May try an evening hunt and putting a cam over the scrape today.
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#2971877 - 10/07/12 02:56 PM Re: BSK or anyone else who knows a lot about scrapes [Re: Master Chief]
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Usually, in my humble opinion and experience, a buck will visit a scrape about every three days or so.
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#2971900 - 10/07/12 03:26 PM Re: BSK or anyone else who knows a lot about scrapes [Re: Coach]
double browtine
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Sounds like you moved to the right spot.
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#2971986 - 10/07/12 05:21 PM Re: BSK or anyone else who knows a lot about scrapes [Re: double browtine]
yamaha200
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How did you know they were his tracks ?
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#2972024 - 10/07/12 06:37 PM Re: BSK or anyone else who knows a lot about scrapes [Re: yamaha200]
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 Originally Posted By: yamaha200
How did you know they were his tracks ?


Good question but was your original question?

If it was me, I would forget I ever saw the scrape other than to pee in it now and then and hunt the trail where you saw "his" tracks. The scrape means little in terms of hunting.
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#2972036 - 10/07/12 06:44 PM Re: BSK or anyone else who knows a lot about scrapes [Re: bowriter]
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Yeah, what BW said. Individual scrapes are super hit miss (more on the "miss" for daytime hunting). Now, if you can find a primary scrape area, you have a midday gold mine for the pre rut, but, primary scrape areas don't happen everywhere. I was not able to find one last season for example. In 2011, I stumbled upon one: A huge community scrape with another ~20 scrapes in the surrounding vicinity. I hunted it immediately and encountered 3 mature bucks in one day on public land.

Note:

1. Do not confuse turkey scratchings with scrapes.
2. Don't get overly excited about early season scrapes.
3. Try to use the scrapes more to understand the way the bucks are using the terrain rather than see them in isolation. They can happen anywhere and everywhere, but sometimes, they will give you important information about the travel corridors.
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#2972067 - 10/07/12 07:12 PM Re: BSK or anyone else who knows a lot about scrapes [Re: Poser]
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I disagree on hunting the scrapes with BW and Poser...everyone has their ideas I guess and that's what makes this site a goodun...
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#2972114 - 10/07/12 07:50 PM Re: BSK or anyone else who knows a lot about scrapes [Re: Master Chief]
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 Originally Posted By: Master Chief
This morning I decided to hunt were my big trail cam buck was till 8:00 then scout, it's a salt lick so I didn't expect to see much. As expected, I didin't see anything in stand so I climbed out and looked around. As soon as I got to a whiteoak, maybe 60 yards from the lick, I found a nice trail with his tracks fresh in it. I followed it around the ridge and decided it looked good enough. Then I walked back up the middle of the ridge and found a large scrape in a patch of small poplar trees. It didn't have a licking branch though, what does that mean? Does it matter? There was a 2" tree demolshed about 5 yards away and a little dime size rub.

I started too pee in it but looked up and saw a doe trot off. I knew were she went so I waited a bit then followed. When I got to were she was standing I noticed she had been bedded by a tree with another deer. I ended up stalking them in a patch of kudzu. Unfortunately I couldn't get any closer and can't shoot good enough at 40 so I just let em be and moved my stand 20 yards from the scrape and trail.

May try an evening hunt and putting a cam over the scrape today.


I have never been one to stick to scrapes in general but have learned a few things.
In certain years i have this one scrape location beneath a beech and it is a primary and i have killed a best ever buck near it.
while tracking that same buck i came across another set of beech trees with about 7 of them concentrated close together and noticed at least 7 or 8 large scrapes within that 20 yard area. I made note of it and the next year i placed my son over that scrape for two days in a row and got busted by several deer. Finally on the third attempt at nearly 11 am in the morning he shot a nice 8 pt coming in to it right at the eve of breeding phase. Not every scrape means something important, not every scrape means it is not the one that is............... \:\)
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#2972115 - 10/07/12 07:51 PM Re: BSK or anyone else who knows a lot about scrapes [Re: bowriter]
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 Originally Posted By: bowriter
 Originally Posted By: yamaha200
How did you know they were his tracks ?


Good question but was your original question?

If it was me, I would forget I ever saw the scrape other than to pee in it now and then and hunt the trail where you saw "his" tracks. The scrape means little in terms of hunting.


yamaha-Obviously I can't tell for 100% sure but I'm pretty sure it is.. if not then oh well, theres a different big buck in there now.

BW & Poser-thanks for the advice, I set it up to focus on the trail, the poplar trees around the scrape are too thick for a bow shot anyways

Hunted it this evening and saw one walk up the adjacent ridge, couldn't tell what it was. I'll hunt it again Wed barring a change in wind prediction. After that I'll have to wait till the 20-23
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#2973646 - 10/08/12 09:38 PM Re: BSK or anyone else who knows a lot about scrapes [Re: Master Chief]
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As Poser mentioned, turkey scratching can closely mimic a scrape. Most scrapes will have either an overhanging limb or brushy shrub tye plant directly adjacent (I've seen bucks make scrapes next to tiny cedar trees or even patches of grape-vine that they were using for scent-marking instead of an overhanging branch).

Hunting scrapes can be really hit and miss. Although as Poser mentioned (primary scrape) and Boone 58 alluded to ("traditional" scrapes--scrapes that show up in the same spot year after year), hunting some scrapes can be fairly productive. Personally, I like scrape concentrations--an area of 25-30 yards with 5-8+ fresh scrapes scattered around.

And contrary to popular belief, the size of a deer's track cannot be used to tell the size, age, or sex of the deer. Some small/young does just have big hooves, and some older bucks do not.
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