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#2949044 - 09/19/12 01:21 PM Nero Fiddled, Obama Golfs & Plays - America Burns
Wes Parrish
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Look what's happening to a major American industry:

Coal Industry Burning To Ground Under Obama
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/09/...-mine-closings/

“If somebody wants to build a coal-powered plant, they can, it's just that it will bankrupt them,” Obama said, in a quote interpreted by critics as a campaign promise that coal would have no future in an Obama White House.

“The president’s extreme policies are crippling entire towns and making it harder for workers to find jobs,” Capito, co-founder of the Congressional Coal Caucus, said in a written statement. "Because of the president's War on Coal, thousands of West Virginia families have to worry about where their next paycheck is going to come from."



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#2949049 - 09/19/12 01:26 PM Re: Nero Fiddled, Obama Golfs & Plays - America Burns [Re: Wes Parrish]
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Billy Raney, president of the West Virginia Coal Association, said the EPA has specifically created “impossible standards” for electricity-generating plants.
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#2949060 - 09/19/12 01:38 PM Re: Nero Fiddled, Obama Golfs & Plays - America Burns [Re: Wes Parrish]
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Alpha Natural Resources announced yesterday they are closing 8 mines and laying off 1200 miners, with the first 400 gone immediately.

Thanks a bunch, a-hO.
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#2949063 - 09/19/12 01:44 PM Re: Nero Fiddled, Obama Golfs & Plays - America Burns [Re: BMan]
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President Obama empathized last night with the co-host of a New York fundraiser, hip hop mogul Jay-Z.

Obama said Jay-Z -- "knows what my life is like."

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#2949080 - 09/19/12 02:04 PM Re: Nero Fiddled, Obama Golfs & Plays - America Burns [Re: preds1]
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I cannot comprehend how 49+ percent of people will still vote for this man that I loathe.

I wasn't expecting a landslide victory but I was confident that Romney would win. I'm not so sure anymore.
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#2949571 - 09/19/12 08:34 PM Re: Nero Fiddled, Obama Golfs & Plays - America Burns [Re: Pic IN the Casa]
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It truly amazes me how we can have as much oil as Saudi Arabia, enough coal for the next 100 years, and an almost endless supply of natural gas. And the tree hugging liBeRals running this country want to build wind generators and solar panels made in China.

The Keystone pipeline should have been built for strategic purposes alone, regardless if it drops the price of oil or created 10 billion jobs. Israel is going to attack Iran and we will see 150 a barrel oil overnight. The first thing I am going to do is yank the first Prius driver from their car and beat them to a pulp.
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#2949723 - 09/19/12 10:17 PM Re: Nero Fiddled, Obama Golfs & Plays - America Burns [Re: FLTENNHUNTER1]
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The Keystone Pipeline has already been built and is in use now. It runs from Alberta to Illinois.
Phases 3 and 4 will be looked at in 2013.

Keystone XL Pipeline Project:

TransCanada is fully committed to the construction of the 1,897-km (1,179-mile) Keystone XL Pipeline from Hardisty, Alberta to Steele City, Nebraska. We will re-apply for a Presidential Permit and expect a new application to be processed in an expedited manner, making use of the exhaustive record compiled over the past three plus years of regulatory review to allow for an in-service date of 2015. TransCanada anticipates approval of the Presidential Permit application - which is required as the pipeline will cross the Canada/U.S. border - in the first quarter of 2013, after which construction will quickly begin.

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#2949743 - 09/19/12 10:42 PM Re: Nero Fiddled, Obama Golfs & Plays - America Burns [Re: Tony(D)]
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 Originally Posted By: Tony(D)
The Keystone Pipeline has already been built and is in use now. It runs from Alberta to Illinois.
Phases 3 and 4 will be looked at in 2013.

Keystone XL Pipeline Project:

TransCanada is fully committed to the construction of the 1,897-km (1,179-mile) Keystone XL Pipeline from Hardisty, Alberta to Steele City, Nebraska. We will re-apply for a Presidential Permit and expect a new application to be processed in an expedited manner, making use of the exhaustive record compiled over the past three plus years of regulatory review to allow for an in-service date of 2015. TransCanada anticipates approval of the Presidential Permit application - which is required as the pipeline will cross the Canada/U.S. border - in the first quarter of 2013, after which construction will quickly begin.


Doesn't sound like a done deal to me there Tony(D)uCk.

Care to defend your Marxist Messiah and his love of the coal industry?
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#2949891 - 09/20/12 06:20 AM Re: Nero Fiddled, Obama Golfs & Plays - America Burns [Re: Tony(D)]
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 Originally Posted By: Tony(D)
The Keystone Pipeline has already been built and is in use now. It runs from Alberta to Illinois.
Phases 3 and 4 will be looked at in 2013.

Keystone XL Pipeline Project:

TransCanada is fully committed to the construction of the 1,897-km (1,179-mile) Keystone XL Pipeline from Hardisty, Alberta to Steele City, Nebraska. We will re-apply for a Presidential Permit and expect a new application to be processed in an expedited manner, making use of the exhaustive record compiled over the past three plus years of regulatory review to allow for an in-service date of 2015. TransCanada anticipates approval of the Presidential Permit application - which is required as the pipeline will cross the Canada/U.S. border - in the first quarter of 2013, after which construction will quickly begin.


How the heck can a pipeline already been built and in use running from Alberta to Illinois when it DID NOT HAVE A PERMIT TO CROSS THE US/CANADA BORDER????????
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#2950001 - 09/20/12 08:20 AM Re: Nero Fiddled, Obama Golfs & Plays - America Burns [Re: Wildcat]
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 Originally Posted By: Wildcat
 Originally Posted By: Tony(D)
The Keystone Pipeline has already been built and is in use now. It runs from Alberta to Illinois.
Phases 3 and 4 will be looked at in 2013.

Keystone XL Pipeline Project:

TransCanada is fully committed to the construction of the 1,897-km (1,179-mile) Keystone XL Pipeline from Hardisty, Alberta to Steele City, Nebraska. We will re-apply for a Presidential Permit and expect a new application to be processed in an expedited manner, making use of the exhaustive record compiled over the past three plus years of regulatory review to allow for an in-service date of 2015. TransCanada anticipates approval of the Presidential Permit application - which is required as the pipeline will cross the Canada/U.S. border - in the first quarter of 2013, after which construction will quickly begin.


How the heck can a pipeline already been built and in use running from Alberta to Illinois when it DID NOT HAVE A PERMIT TO CROSS THE US/CANADA BORDER????????


Facts are always liberal tripping points.
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#2950025 - 09/20/12 08:31 AM Re: Nero Fiddled, Obama Golfs & Plays - America Burns [Re: AndyW]
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 Quote:
The Keystone Pipeline has already been built and is in use now.

*Snip*

TransCanada anticipates approval of the Presidential Permit application - in the first quarter of 2013, after which construction will quickly begin.


It's in use now and expected to exist soon?

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#2950131 - 09/20/12 09:45 AM Re: Nero Fiddled, Obama Golfs & Plays - America Burns [Re: Crappie Luck]
Wes Parrish
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Hey, don't be so hard on the old Duck! \:D
He's just repeating what his union boss told him to say!
Just following orders.

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#2950221 - 09/20/12 10:48 AM Re: Nero Fiddled, Obama Golfs & Plays - America Burns [Re: Crappie Luck]
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 Originally Posted By: Crappie Luck
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The Keystone Pipeline has already been built and is in use now.

*Snip*

TransCanada anticipates approval of the Presidential Permit application - in the first quarter of 2013, after which construction will quickly begin.


It's in use now and expected to exist soon?






I didn't mean to confuse you Crappie Luck.

The Keystone XL Pipelines, which are phase 3 and 4 of the original Keystone Pipeline, are the ones that are not yet completed. They are expansion segments of the original Keystone Pipeline which has been in operation since 2010.

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#2950225 - 09/20/12 10:55 AM Re: Nero Fiddled, Obama Golfs & Plays - America Burns [Re: Wildcat]
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 Originally Posted By: Wildcat
 Originally Posted By: Tony(D)
The Keystone Pipeline has already been built and is in use now. It runs from Alberta to Illinois.
Phases 3 and 4 will be looked at in 2013.

Keystone XL Pipeline Project:

TransCanada is fully committed to the construction of the 1,897-km (1,179-mile) Keystone XL Pipeline from Hardisty, Alberta to Steele City, Nebraska. We will re-apply for a Presidential Permit and expect a new application to be processed in an expedited manner, making use of the exhaustive record compiled over the past three plus years of regulatory review to allow for an in-service date of 2015. TransCanada anticipates approval of the Presidential Permit application - which is required as the pipeline will cross the Canada/U.S. border - in the first quarter of 2013, after which construction will quickly begin.


How the heck can a pipeline already been built and in use running from Alberta to Illinois when it DID NOT HAVE A PERMIT TO CROSS THE US/CANADA BORDER????????






This may help explain it:

TransCanada Corporation proposed the project on February 9, 2005. In October 2007, the Communications, Energy and Paperworkers Union of Canada asked the Canadian federal government to block regulatory approvals for the pipeline, with union president Dave Coles stating that 'the Keystone pipeline will exclusively serve US markets, create permanent employment for very few Canadians, reduce our energy security, and hinder investment and job creation in the Canadian energy sector'. However, the National Energy Board of Canada approved the construction of the Canadian section of the pipeline, including converting a portion of TransCanada's Canadian Mainline gas pipeline to crude oil pipeline, on September 21, 2007. On March 17, 2008, the U.S. Department of State issued a Presidential Permit authorizing the construction, maintenance and operation of facilities at the United States and Canada border.

On January 22, 2008, ConocoPhillips acquired a 50% stake in the project. However, on June 17, 2009, TransCanada agreed that they would buy out ConocoPhillips' share in the project and revert to being the sole owner. It took TransCanada more than two years to acquire all the necessary state and federal permits for the pipeline. Construction took another two years. The pipeline, from Hardisty, Alberta, Canada, to Patoka, Illinois, U.S.A., became operational in June 2010.


As I explained to Crappie Luck the newest addition to that original pipeline is called the Keystone XL Pipeline and is the one that is slated to be completed in the future. It is phase 3 and 4 of the original and they are the ones that have been in the news recently and last year.

Sorry you got so confused.

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