#2944033 - 09/15/12 07:32 AM
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tasaman
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Savage guarantees this gun to shoot 1.5" at 100 yards and if it don't then you can send it into them and they will shoot it on their bench. If it don't shoot they will replace the barrel and shoot it again. If it don't shoot they will replace whatever they need to just to get it to shoot. How do I know this? I had my barrel replaced for free by Savage. Now it shoots better than 1" at 100.
I am currently shooting 43gr 4759 and a Barnes Original 300gr bullet in a Harvester Black Crush Rib sabot. Have shot this set up in 90 deg heat and -12 deg and have never had a misfire. Very accurate in my gun.
Another cheaper and plenty great combo is a Hornady XTP 300 gr or 250 gr bullet in a Red Crush Rib sabot and Accurate 5744 powder. Follow the manual powder measurements.
Don't go for max loads right off the bat. Start at the min and go up.
There are a few things that need to be verified on a Savage. Some common ones are the scope base screws to make sure they are not bottoming out. The other is front edge of scope base to make sure it's not touching the lock nut.
Yes, you need to allow the barrel to cool between shots. The heat generated will soften the sabot and your groups will suck if you don't. Many a Savage has been sold because the owner refused to follow this simple rule. Fire the shot, wait about 5 min in decent weather and 10 or more in hot weather. Keep it out of the sun if you can. If hunting, reload and don't worry. I've shot 3 deer in one go round without a bad shot in cooler weather.
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#2944154 - 09/15/12 10:10 AM
Re: another savage smokeless post
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scn
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The load I have pretty well settled on is a 300gr. Barnes Origional bullet, orange MMP sabot, and 44gr of AA5744. It has shot pretty good and is great on the terminal end.
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#2944943 - 09/16/12 06:26 AM
Re: another savage smokeless post
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East TN Hunter
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Loc: East TN
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Notes on accuracy:
1) Get a tight fitting bullet/sabot combo for you barrel. You want ~40-50 lbs pressure to seat the bullet. Luke sells sample packs:
http://smokelessmz.com/index.html
2) If the barrel gets above ~92F, plastic sabots cannot handle the pressure generated by smokeless powders and you will start to get fliers.
3) Savages are 1.5 MOA guns. If you are only going to be happy with sub MOA, you may want to consider starting with an after market barrel.
Edited by East TN Hunter (09/16/12 06:27 AM)
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#2945031 - 09/16/12 08:50 AM
Re: another savage smokeless post
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Rockhound
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Thanks for all the advice guys! If i can get 1.5 moa ill be greatly satisfied
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#2945066 - 09/16/12 10:05 AM
Re: another savage smokeless post
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Rockhound
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What kind of bullets come with the gun? And what kind of primers do yall prefer, im guessing federal 209a based on my 10 ga handload experience?
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#2945122 - 09/16/12 11:51 AM
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cecil30-30
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You'll get 5 250gr Hornady XTP bullets and 5 MMP black sabots..
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#2945222 - 09/16/12 02:34 PM
Re: another savage smokeless post
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East TN Hunter
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I use federal 209A primers.
I hunted last year with the 250 XTPs and shot 2 animals. Good terminal performance. I get 1.5" groups with 250 XTPs/supplied short black sabots/45g AA5744.
Edited by East TN Hunter (09/16/12 02:39 PM)
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#2945349 - 09/16/12 06:29 PM
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fullstream
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I use 209a federal.
when I first got it I was shooting aa5744 43gns with barnes 300exp's using sabots that came with the exp's. Had great results. Also tried 300sst's w/ aa5744 44gns and black mmp's. Was able to go in on a group bulk buy of N120 and have found 60gns w/ 300exp's to be sub moa. And when I hunt open fields 58gns N120 and 300sst's is the way to fly also sub 1" groups.I tried the 250 xtp's & sst's but always seemed to get better accuracy w/ 300's.
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#2945466 - 09/16/12 08:00 PM
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Deer Assassin
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The load I have pretty well settled on is a 300gr. Barnes Origional bullet, orange MMP sabot, and 44gr of AA5744. It has shot pretty good and is great on the terminal end.
good bullet
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#2945581 - 09/16/12 09:20 PM
Re: another savage smokeless post
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Rockhound
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Registered: 04/04/11
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Loc: Lawrence Co. TN
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I use federal 209A primers.
I hunted last year with the 250 XTPs and shot 2 animals. Good terminal performance. I get 1.5" groups with 250 XTPs/supplied short black sabots/45g AA5744.
I think i would rather shoot 300 gr. Because i dont have the opportunity at much over 150 yds
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