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#2939356 - 09/11/12 10:07 AM Re: Plant before Friday night [Re: tellico4x4]
Andy S.
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 Originally Posted By: tellico4x4
I've gotten where I don't pay any attention to the Weather Channel anymore...
Very smart move on your part.
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#2939529 - 09/11/12 12:44 PM Re: Plant before Friday night [Re: tellico4x4]
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 Originally Posted By: tellico4x4
 Originally Posted By: BSK
Although there is a moderate chance of light showers Saturday, it looks like the next substantial rain won't get here until the following Thursday (9/20).


I know that you look at several different models to make your predictions, but it's amazing how Accuweather's long range forecast seems to be spot on here lately. I've gotten where I don't pay any attention to the Weather Channel anymore...


The Weather Channel is the worst at forecasting. Accuweather is OK, but not anywhere near as good as just the raw model data. All these forecasting groups use the same model data, but then interpret it using their own methods. Their accuracy would go up dramatically if they would just use the raw model data without manipulating it further.
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#2939549 - 09/11/12 01:05 PM Re: Plant before Friday night [Re: BSK]
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 Originally Posted By: BSK
 Originally Posted By: tellico4x4
 Originally Posted By: BSK
Although there is a moderate chance of light showers Saturday, it looks like the next substantial rain won't get here until the following Thursday (9/20).


I know that you look at several different models to make your predictions, but it's amazing how Accuweather's long range forecast seems to be spot on here lately. I've gotten where I don't pay any attention to the Weather Channel anymore...


The Weather Channel is the worst at forecasting. Accuweather is OK, but not anywhere near as good as just the raw model data. All these forecasting groups use the same model data, but then interpret it using their own methods. Their accuracy would go up dramatically if they would just use the raw model data without manipulating it further.


Bryan, is this a stupid question:

Where do you find the raw model data?
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#2939678 - 09/11/12 02:38 PM Re: Plant before Friday night [Re: JCDEERMAN]
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You can find it many places, but I prefer using the College of DuPage website. Of all of the models available, I prefer the GFS model.

http://www.weather.cod.edu/forecast/
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#2939734 - 09/11/12 03:28 PM Re: Plant before Friday night [Re: BSK]
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Thank you very much, sir!
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#2939864 - 09/11/12 05:34 PM Re: Plant before Friday night [Re: BSK]
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 Originally Posted By: BSK
Although there is a moderate chance of light showers Saturday, it looks like the next substantial rain won't get here until the following Thursday (9/20).


If that works out, it would actually be perfect for me.

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#2939973 - 09/11/12 07:20 PM Re: Plant before Friday night [Re: Trapper John]
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 Originally Posted By: Trapper John
 Originally Posted By: BSK
Although there is a moderate chance of light showers Saturday, it looks like the next substantial rain won't get here until the following Thursday (9/20).


If that works out, it would actually be perfect for me.


I would LOVE LOVE LOVE for it to rain thursday and friday before bow season. Although, there would probably be 3X's as many acorns on the ground. Areas scouted for specific trees would be extinguished due to many other trees dropping. But it looks like it will cool off afterwards \:\)
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#2940491 - 09/12/12 06:54 AM Re: Plant before Friday night [Re: JCDEERMAN]
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Always "iffy" to trust the models out at 8-10 days, but currently they suggest a powerful cold front coming through for opening day.
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#2940813 - 09/12/12 11:31 AM Re: Plant before Friday night [Re: BSK]
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 Originally Posted By: BSK
Always "iffy" to trust the models out at 8-10 days, but currently they suggest a powerful cold front coming through for opening day.
Yeah,I trust em more about 3 to 4 days out.
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#2940837 - 09/12/12 11:50 AM Re: Plant before Friday night [Re: Football Hunter]
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 Originally Posted By: Football Hunter
 Originally Posted By: BSK
Always "iffy" to trust the models out at 8-10 days, but currently they suggest a powerful cold front coming through for opening day.
Yeah,I trust em more about 3 to 4 days out.


The accuracy out to about 7 days has gotten remarkably better in the last few years, but if you watch the models daily, you would find a lot of differences in the forecasts in the 8-10 day range each day, indicating major changes in the outcome of the computations for each model run.
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