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#2931809 - 09/04/12 01:50 PM Re: Timber Advice... [Re: BlountArrow]
BSK
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 Originally Posted By: BlountArrow
Anybody got anything else - recommendations, horror stories, what to do, what not to do???


All of my horror stories involve loggers starting the job, cherry picking a few trees, and then leaving. That's happened half a dozen times.
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#2931814 - 09/04/12 01:53 PM Re: Timber Advice... [Re: BSK]
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 Originally Posted By: BSK
 Originally Posted By: BlountArrow
Anybody got anything else - recommendations, horror stories, what to do, what not to do???


All of my horror stories involve loggers starting the job, cherry picking a few trees, and then leaving. That's happened half a dozen times.
I wonder if thats typical of the industry,or has to do with the difficulty of your place as you have described,or maybe some of both?
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#2931996 - 09/04/12 04:33 PM Re: Timber Advice... [Re: Football Hunter]
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 Originally Posted By: Football Hunter
 Originally Posted By: BSK
 Originally Posted By: BlountArrow
Anybody got anything else - recommendations, horror stories, what to do, what not to do???


All of my horror stories involve loggers starting the job, cherry picking a few trees, and then leaving. That's happened half a dozen times.
I wonder if thats typical of the industry,or has to do with the difficulty of your place as you have described,or maybe some of both?


Everything comes down to the type of job you want done, the quality if the timber, and the acreage involved. It's hardest to get loggers to do custom jobs like I want. Much easier to get them to do large jobs (select-cut or clear-cut a large acreage area).

You can definitely help get a job done if the loggers buy the timber up front. Then they are on the hook to cut and make a profit. With the strange, custom cuts I want done, I usually have to work on a percentage cut basis, and once a logger has the fastest profit tree out, he is less likely to stick around and cut everything I want cut, especially if that doesn't turn the profit he is looking for.
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#2932027 - 09/04/12 05:10 PM Re: Timber Advice... [Re: BSK]
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A good place to start is the Tennwssee Division of Forrestry. Contact them and they will look at the timber and prepare a Forrest Management Plan and examination report.
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#2932034 - 09/04/12 05:16 PM Re: Timber Advice... [Re: BSK]
bigtex
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 Originally Posted By: BSK


All of my horror stories involve loggers starting the job, cherry picking a few trees, and then leaving. That's happened half a dozen times.

I can't even get my "logger" to show up. I've had a contract signed since February of this year and he was to be finished and gone by Sept. 1st. Even paid a security deposit saying he would. [at least I got that much out of it]
I even went through all the correct channels, Forrester, etc.
Evidently "some" loggers are like house contractors, they take on more than they know they can do in a specific period of time. I'm going to give him another week then i'm calling my forrester and tell him to try and get someone else.
To the OP good luck!!!!!!!
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#2933032 - 09/05/12 02:26 PM Re: Timber Advice... [Re: bigtex]
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What county are you in? I might can point you in the right way if your close to me.
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#2933049 - 09/05/12 02:45 PM Re: Timber Advice... [Re: timberjack86]
BlountArrow
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 Originally Posted By: timberjack86
What county are you in? I might can point you in the right way if your close to me.


Blount County
Thanks.
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#2933215 - 09/05/12 05:28 PM Re: Timber Advice... [Re: BlountArrow]
DaveB
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There is a Tennessee hardwood lumber association, I can't remember the corrrect name, right here in Cordova, I know the building, I think this is the phone number.
901-377-1818. Call them and see if they have someone they would recommend, or a list of approved loggers. Website is
http://www.nhla.com/

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#2933440 - 09/05/12 07:53 PM Re: Timber Advice... [Re: BlountArrow]
timberjack86
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 Originally Posted By: BlountArrow
 Originally Posted By: timberjack86
What county are you in? I might can point you in the right way if your close to me.


Blount County
Thanks.
I guess I could have guessd that from your name \:D I dont know anyone from blount county. I tell everyone before you hire a timber guy ask him for some refrences to call. There is nothing better than talking with landowners he has worked for in the past and finding out how satisfied they were with the job he did. If he wont provide refrences find another logger that will!
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#2933446 - 09/05/12 07:55 PM Re: Timber Advice... [Re: BSK]
timberjack86
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 Originally Posted By: BSK
 Originally Posted By: Football Hunter
 Originally Posted By: BSK
 Originally Posted By: BlountArrow
Anybody got anything else - recommendations, horror stories, what to do, what not to do???


All of my horror stories involve loggers starting the job, cherry picking a few trees, and then leaving. That's happened half a dozen times.
I wonder if thats typical of the industry,or has to do with the difficulty of your place as you have described,or maybe some of both?


Everything comes down to the type of job you want done, the quality if the timber, and the acreage involved. It's hardest to get loggers to do custom jobs like I want. Much easier to get them to do large jobs (select-cut or clear-cut a large acreage area).

You can definitely help get a job done if the loggers buy the timber up front. Then they are on the hook to cut and make a profit. With the strange, custom cuts I want done, I usually have to work on a percentage cut basis, and once a logger has the fastest profit tree out, he is less likely to stick around and cut everything I want cut, especially if that doesn't turn the profit he is looking for.
We have done jobs like that and stayed till it was done the way the landower wanted. Never mind we almost starved to death a few times \:D
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