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#2930584 - 09/03/12 01:25 PM Re: would you be afraid to carry a 45 for bear defense [Re: pseshooter300]

Registered: 02/01/11
Posts: 37
Loc: Tennessee

While I prefer to tote my Ruger Super Redhawk chambered in the amazing 480 Ruger cartridge with a 9.5" barrel, a .45 ACP is TN Black Bear medicine. It's particularly effective if you had it loaded with some solid bullets instead of the standard hollow points.
#2936081 - 09/08/12 04:17 AM Re: would you be afraid to carry a 45 for bear defense [Re: HandGunner480]
4 Point

Registered: 10/14/00
Posts: 433
Loc: Huron, TN, USA

No S&W .500 fans? I don't have one - it is just a curiosity to me at this point.
#2936598 - 09/08/12 06:42 PM Re: would you be afraid to carry a 45 for bear defense [Re: Swampster]
12 Point

Registered: 09/12/07
Posts: 5211
Loc: In a river hopefully!

I would carry a .45four (454)Casull Redhawk Alaskan with partitions. HA!
I hunt and fish not for the thrill of the kill, but for the thrill of the grill!!

#2937403 - 09/09/12 04:35 PM Re: would you be afraid to carry a 45 for bear defense [Re: 7mm08]
Greg M
6 Point

Registered: 02/11/10
Posts: 822
Loc: Riverview, FL/ Bluff City, TN

.357, ballistically speaking, has more ft. lbs of energy than .45acp or 10mm. You trade off 6 rounds for 8 or more though. Just man up, and go with a folding pocket knife. LOL.
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#2940898 - 09/12/12 12:51 PM Re: would you be afraid to carry a 45 for bear defense [Re: meat hunter]
big jim
4 Point

Registered: 11/08/05
Posts: 418
Loc: South of Norene, Wilson County

Black bear, the .45 with the right ammuntion like a bonded HP or cast bullet would be...well OK. The bullet weight is there, but velocity suffers in .45 ACP.

The 10mm on the other hand is adequate for defense against black bear and would be a reasonable choice over the .45 acp. What we have to understand is that most factory 10mm auto ammuntion is loaded down from the SAAMI specifications, putting it closer to the standard .357 magnum energy figures. When bullet weights of the 10mm and the .357 are compared the 10mm betters the .357 in almost all instances in energy and velocity, yet has more frontal area (an attribute to the venerable .45 ACP). Commercial Ammuntion from doubletap and buffalo Bore are at the higher end of the 10mm spectrum and have some impressive energy figures, especially when you put it in the slim and light weight profile of a semi-auto platform like the Glock pistol.

Handloaders of the 10mm, have the distinct advantage of capitolizing on premium bullets and powder and acheiving full performance of the 10mm cartridge without exceeding SAAMI pressures. I carry the Glock 20 afield for both 2 and 4 legged protection and deer hunting. I load up 180 GR Hornady XTP's (very good penetrating hunting bullet) to 1320 FPS. With 16 rounds at hand, I woudn't feel undergunned in a "chance" encounter with a Tennessee black bear.

If you don't handload or know someonw who does, look to doubletap or buffalo bore.

For me between the .45, .357 and the 10mm auto...Make mine the 10mm.

#2950367 - 09/20/12 12:43 PM Re: would you be afraid to carry a 45 for bear defense [Re: eightpointer]
.444 Marlin
16 Point

Registered: 08/10/02
Posts: 15458
Loc: Benton, Polk Co. Tenn.

whatever you choose, heavy and slow is the way to go with bigger rounds. I personally wouldnt go any smaller than a 40 or 10mm
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#2952153 - 09/21/12 09:06 PM Re: would you be afraid to carry a 45 for bear defense [Re: 348Winchester]
14 Point

Registered: 01/17/06
Posts: 8467
Loc: Collierville,TN.

Shoot 230 gr full metal jackets and you will be fine!
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#3051522 - 11/27/12 12:35 PM Re: would you be afraid to carry a 45 for bear defense [Re: W.Seay]

Registered: 11/06/12
Posts: 30
Loc: Dekalb Co.

I recently had a encounter with a Wild Hog while carrying a 45 Glock. I have always and still do feel comfortable with the 45 for personal protection against 2 legged critters but, the 45 was no match for the hog. I could not get her off her feet even at ranges of less than 6 foot. I was sure I was hitting her but she just kept coming. I was finally able with a badly misplaced shot able to break a front leg and stop her. Once she was recovered we found all 11 rounds that were fired embedded in her but only the ones in her guts penetrated enough to kill her albeit it was a slow and non humane death. I think I will stick to my 44 for the 4 legged critters and the 45 for the two legged ones.
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