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#2929496 - 09/02/12 10:08 AM Frustrating Tune
TN Whitetail Freak
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Bow String is center of arrow and pins are centered with string and arrow shaft and bow shoots 7 inches left at 12 yards
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#2929499 - 09/02/12 10:11 AM Re: Frustrating Tune [Re: TN Whitetail Freak]
Harvester
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Sounds like your center shot is out of tune.
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#2929505 - 09/02/12 10:22 AM Re: Frustrating Tune [Re: Harvester]
Harvester
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How to fix. Nock an arrow, then, with a second arrow put the insert end toward the bow string. Now hold that arrow firmly against the shelf/riser and see how far the nocked arrow is out of align with the one you are holding against the shelf/riser. Adjust from there and get as close as possible to parallel.
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#2929509 - 09/02/12 10:26 AM Re: Frustrating Tune [Re: TN Whitetail Freak]
TNDeerGuy
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 Originally Posted By: TN Whitetail Freak
Bow String is center of arrow and pins are centered with string and arrow shaft and bow shoots 7 inches left at 12 yards


What type of bow?

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#2929538 - 09/02/12 11:00 AM Re: Frustrating Tune [Re: TNDeerGuy]
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2010 Diamond Black Ice
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Crossbows should be for the handicap only!

Life's Not Handed To Ya; Go Get It.

Sure, the rut is a GREAT time to hunt if you don't know what you're doing!

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#2929551 - 09/02/12 11:14 AM Re: Frustrating Tune [Re: TN Whitetail Freak]
Dale817
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Are you shooting with your bow hand open so you dont torque the bow to the left? Harvester has a good idea with the second arrow on the bow shelf, never thought of checking center shot that way
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#2929556 - 09/02/12 11:26 AM Re: Frustrating Tune [Re: Dale817]
muddyboots
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My PSE has a line on top of the shelf. U can look down the top of the arrow and tell if it is centered or not. Maybe Diamond bows have one.
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#2929566 - 09/02/12 11:42 AM Re: Frustrating Tune [Re: TN Whitetail Freak]
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 Originally Posted By: TN Whitetail Freak
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Easy fix, check and make sure the arrow is centered over the berger hole and your nocking point should be 1/8th" above square. Next, take a tape measure and measure from the riser to the center of the arrow—that measurement should be 7/8". That is your starting point. From there walk-back tune it—stand at 15 yards and shoot at a point high on the target, from there move back 5 yards at a time while using the same pin at the same point, (I like to go out to 40yds). You should have a completely verticle line of arrows. If you do not have a verticle line, and it is diagonal, then move the rest in the direction you need to get the bottom arrow even with the top one (if the bottom arrows are left of the top, move the rest to the right in 1/16" increments).

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#2929843 - 09/02/12 06:24 PM Re: Frustrating Tune [Re: Harvester]
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 Originally Posted By: harvester
How to fix. Nock an arrow, then, with a second arrow put the insert end toward the bow string. Now hold that arrow firmly against the shelf/riser and see how far the nocked arrow is out of align with the one you are holding against the shelf/riser. Adjust from there and get as close as possible to parallel.


Dumb question but wouldn't the reference arrow need to be level with the Berger hole?

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#2930117 - 09/02/12 10:26 PM Re: Frustrating Tune [Re: UTGrad]
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Read this - http://www.public.asu.edu/~roblewis/Archery/tuning.htm
Download the Nuts and Bolts of Archery from http://www.archerytalk.com - http://archeryhistory.com/archerytalk/The_Nuts&Bolts_of_Archery.pdf
and study the tuning information.

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#2930259 - 09/03/12 07:29 AM Re: Frustrating Tune [Re: Buccaneer]
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The fishing line trick got me lined up now I just got to walk back tune it
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#2930291 - 09/03/12 08:07 AM Re: Frustrating Tune [Re: UTGrad]
Harvester
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 Originally Posted By: UTGrad
 Originally Posted By: harvester
How to fix. Nock an arrow, then, with a second arrow put the insert end toward the bow string. Now hold that arrow firmly against the shelf/riser and see how far the nocked arrow is out of align with the one you are holding against the shelf/riser. Adjust from there and get as close as possible to parallel.


Dumb question but wouldn't the reference arrow need to be level with the Berger hole?



The "reference" arrow would be held on the verticle part not on the shelf itself. His right and left is out of tune.

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#2931622 - 09/04/12 11:10 AM Re: Frustrating Tune [Re: TN Whitetail Freak]
pjridge
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 Originally Posted By: TN Whitetail Freak
Bow String is center of arrow and pins are centered with string and arrow shaft and bow shoots 7 inches left at 12 yards


Hows your arrows flying? If your getting good flight with broadheads and FT, it is very common on some bows and with some shooters that the pins end up left of your arrow and string for a right hand shooter (opposite for left hand). It's riser torque caused from the cable guard or roller guard which ever you have. Your pins dont always have to line up with the arrow and string to shoot good.
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#2931955 - 09/04/12 03:51 PM Re: Frustrating Tune [Re: pjridge]
TN Whitetail Freak
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 Originally Posted By: pjridge
 Originally Posted By: TN Whitetail Freak
Bow String is center of arrow and pins are centered with string and arrow shaft and bow shoots 7 inches left at 12 yards


Hows your arrows flying? If your getting good flight with broadheads and FT, it is very common on some bows and with some shooters that the pins end up left of your arrow and string for a right hand shooter (opposite for left hand). It's riser torque caused from the cable guard or roller guard which ever you have. Your pins dont always have to line up with the arrow and string to shoot good.


I have the FLX which flexes when drawed....suppossed to reduce riser torque....finally got it lined up and shot it straight at 10 yards but shoots 8 inches left at 35
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#2931992 - 09/04/12 04:29 PM Re: Frustrating Tune [Re: TN Whitetail Freak]
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Are you shooting broadheads or both BH and FT?
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#2932100 - 09/04/12 06:33 PM Re: Frustrating Tune [Re: pjridge]
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Field points....will shoot rage 2 blades come season
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Crossbows should be for the handicap only!

Life's Not Handed To Ya; Go Get It.

Sure, the rut is a GREAT time to hunt if you don't know what you're doing!

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#2932156 - 09/04/12 07:21 PM Re: Frustrating Tune [Re: TN Whitetail Freak]
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 Originally Posted By: TN Whitetail Freak
 Originally Posted By: pjridge
 Originally Posted By: TN Whitetail Freak
Bow String is center of arrow and pins are centered with string and arrow shaft and bow shoots 7 inches left at 12 yards


Hows your arrows flying? If your getting good flight with broadheads and FT, it is very common on some bows and with some shooters that the pins end up left of your arrow and string for a right hand shooter (opposite for left hand). It's riser torque caused from the cable guard or roller guard which ever you have. Your pins dont always have to line up with the arrow and string to shoot good.


I have the FLX which flexes when drawed....suppossed to reduce riser torque....finally got it lined up and shot it straight at 10 yards but shoots 8 inches left at 35


Have you walked back tuned that bow? It is not uncommon for a sight to be left of the string and arrow as previously mentioned for a right-hand shooter.

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#2932338 - 09/04/12 09:14 PM Re: Frustrating Tune [Re: TNDeerGuy]
pjridge
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If your feel the bow is tuned don't worry bout where your sights end up. The way A shooters grips the bow as well as some riser torque can play a role in where ur sites end up in relationship to ur arrow and rest. Good arrow flight and hitting where you aim is the goal.
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#2939870 - 09/11/12 05:47 PM Re: Frustrating Tune [Re: pjridge]
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Ok its me again....I finally got the perfect center shot and sight windage...the bow shoots where I aim.....but I can see my arrows wobbling at 30+ yards my nock is set 1/8th high...i dont know what the deal is!
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#2940211 - 09/11/12 09:32 PM Re: Frustrating Tune [Re: TN Whitetail Freak]
TNDeerGuy
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Are you absolutely sure that they are wobbling? If you have widely contrasting fletchings (one green/two white as an example), it can give the appearance of them wobbling, but in fact they aren't. Another possibility is your getting contact somewhere-get some of your wife's lipstick and put it places that are suspect then check your vanes and see if lipstick is on them.
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