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#2926991 - 08/30/12 09:08 PM Re: Getting someone caught [Re: Gut Bucket]
dh1984
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well i would but they drive around all night just to shoot deer and leave them laying in the field
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#2927079 - 08/30/12 09:49 PM Re: Getting someone caught [Re: scn]
fredfred
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 Originally Posted By: scn
 Originally Posted By: fredfred
 Originally Posted By: scn
You have done about all you can do. The officer will have to observe them in the violation or have a case based on strong enough evidence to win a conviction in court. Without additonal evidence even your testimony about seeing them shoot becomes a deal of your word against their word.

It is fairly easy to "know" somebody is violating. It is a much different story having the necessary evidence to convict them in court.

I would continue to funnel information to the officer and be patient while he/she uses that information to document a winneable case.


A written statement and willingness to testify is more than enough for an officer to make a case. You might not win the case but it still sends a strong message to the violaters. Even if their found guilty it's a very small fine and court cost. The message sent might be better than the conviction, plus the time spent in court and attorneys fees


You are certainly welcome to your opinion, but I totally disagree. I have never been much for taking a "wing and a prayer" case to court. IMO, you stand to lose more ground if you lose in court, and therefore a solid case is needed before prosecution.

Each to his own opinion, but you won't see many professional officers take a case to court where they don't have the evidence to get a conviction.


Well I disagree. Crediable witness statements and eye witnesses have won many a court case. Just the call alone is enough for the officer to patrol the area and even stop suspicious vehicles. The officer might not make the case. But I bet if these guys get stopped they will at least leave the area and that will most likely make the complainent happy. It's called proactive law enforcement and it works.
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#2927083 - 08/30/12 09:51 PM Re: Getting someone caught [Re: fredfred]
fredfred
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Losing a case sucks for sure but they know how close they came to getting caught
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#2929143 - 09/01/12 08:59 PM Re: Getting someone caught [Re: fredfred]
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I have to agree fred. 90% of all crimes are NOT committed in the officers presence therefore the investigative skills of the officer come into play. Good witness statements as well as the willingness of the witnesses to testify in court are very valuable. There are no slam dunk cases that come through court especially when you involve a jury or a judge. So pretty much every case that comes into court is on a wing and a prayer. Im a 21 year veteran sheriffs deputy that has worked the courts for 12 years and I have seen Good cases dismissed and wing and a prayer cases convicted. So it all comes down to the investigation of the crime no matter what type it is, from speeding to murder.
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