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#2916451 - 08/22/12 01:31 PM The Obama Illegal Vote Buying Plan
Wes Parrish
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http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/08/...s-year-senator/

Illegal immigrants could receive more than $7 billion this year in federal tax credits, according to one estimate, thanks to a loophole in the law that allows people not authorized to work to reap the government payments with no questions asked.

Sen. Jeff Sessions' office calculated that, based on recent trends, illegal immigrants could receive roughly $7.4 billion through a provision known as the Additional Child Tax Credit. That's more than quadruple what the payout was four years ago, but the payments have been steadily increasing over the past decade.

Though illegal immigrants are prohibited from receiving similar tax credits, a quirk in the law allows them to qualify for the child tax credit. And it's a "refundable" credit, meaning recipients can reap the money -- with average checks totaling about $1,800 -- even if they've paid no taxes.

Illegal immigrants can qualify because even people not authorized to work in the U.S. are supposed to file returns with the IRS. If they don't have a Social Security number, they are provided what's known as an Individual Taxpayer Identification Number in order to file returns.

A report last year by the Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration found the claims added up to $4.2 billion in 2010. Sessions' office calculated the $7.4 billion figure based on the IG report numbers and White House budget numbers.

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#2916698 - 08/22/12 04:54 PM Re: The Obama Illegal Vote Buying Plan [Re: Wes Parrish]
Wes Parrish
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No shock here, but guess what else Obama is "promulgating" via his executive fiat to NOT enforce U.S. border law?

Third World Diseases Making Comeback in America
Often itís illegal immigrants who bring these diseases into the country. Illegal immigrants obviously donít undergo an initial health screening required of permanent residents who are entering the country legally. In fact, many cross the border because they are ill, so they can latch onto "free" healthcare services. Once here, illegal immigrants may pass on these deadly diseases to people they work with, healthcare workers, and lawful citizens.

Third World Diseases Making Comeback in America
http://www.independentlivingnews.com/2012/08/12/top-10-u-s-states-infested-by-third-world-diseases/

Amnesty by Executive Fiat

http://conservativeoutpost.com/node/6302

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#2916706 - 08/22/12 05:03 PM Re: The Obama Illegal Vote Buying Plan [Re: Wes Parrish]
Wes Parrish
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Immigration is a good thing. But there is a process in place to do it legally, and to say youíre going to come here and stay here illegally is spitting in the face of America. I understand that some of these people were brought here as children. That does not mean they couldnít have done something about their illegal status once they turned 18. The talking point has always been, we donít punish children for the crimes of their parents. This is true.

We also donít reward them for the crimes of their parents. If mom and dad broke federal law by pulling off a million dollar bank heist, would we let the children keep the money because affluence is ďthe only life theyíve ever knownĒ? Of course not.

I saw a dude from India on TV. He speaks 14 languages. He is subject to deportation because the ICE Man sent some paperwork to a company he had worked for that went out of business. He never got it, and that jeopardized his case. If he wants special dispensation to stay, Iím all for it, because he brings something extraordinary to the party. Ditto for anyone with a degree in a useful discipline such as science or engineering.

However, if your only claim on my country is that itís, like, WAY better than the third-world pile of dung you came from, then go home, and immigrate the right way. Obama can sign all the executive orders he wants. You still donít legally belong here, and if Obama believes it is acceptable to bypass Congress and offer amnesty by fiat, then he doesnít belong in the presidency.

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#2916712 - 08/22/12 05:08 PM Re: The Obama Illegal Vote Buying Plan [Re: Wes Parrish]
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As much as I hate Obama and, especially his Execute order amnesty, this tax problem and EIN numbers are not new to this administration.

It's not a tax problem at all. It's another symptom of a suicidal country and morons casting ballots.
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#2916739 - 08/22/12 05:40 PM Re: The Obama Illegal Vote Buying Plan [Re: Crappie Luck]
Wes Parrish
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 Originally Posted By: Crappie Luck
. . . . this tax problem and EIN numbers are not new to this administration.

True, but Obama has made this problem 4 TIMES WORSE in less than 4 years! (Similar to what he's done to the national debt, in that he didn't start it, but sure has made it worse!)

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#2916742 - 08/22/12 05:45 PM Re: The Obama Illegal Vote Buying Plan [Re: Wes Parrish]
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No doubt he has exploited and ignored the law. But I'm just cautious of running after Obama on this since neither Clinton nor Bush made any attempts to stem the tide of illegal Immigration. Obama is just the first to "in-you-face" exploitation of the illegals.

Obama flaunts his lawlessness now. Just imagine how much distain he'll have for the rule of law in Act II.
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#2916802 - 08/22/12 06:50 PM Re: The Obama Illegal Vote Buying Plan [Re: Wes Parrish]
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 Originally Posted By: Wes Parrish
No shock here, but guess what else Obama is "promulgating" via his executive fiat to NOT enforce U.S. border law?

Third World Diseases Making Comeback in America
Often itís illegal immigrants who bring these diseases into the country. Illegal immigrants obviously donít undergo an initial health screening required of permanent residents who are entering the country legally. In fact, many cross the border because they are ill, so they can latch onto "free" healthcare services. Once here, illegal immigrants may pass on these deadly diseases to people they work with, healthcare workers, and lawful citizens.

Third World Diseases Making Comeback in America
http://www.independentlivingnews.com/2012/08/12/top-10-u-s-states-infested-by-third-world-diseases/

Amnesty by Executive Fiat

http://conservativeoutpost.com/node/6302


I have already wondered if the Nile virus epidemic might not have moved over the border. Not that mosquitos would fly that far, but they have to bite an animal that has the virus before they can transmit it. And the only animals moving across the border regularly are humans. If you look at a map of where it is most prevelant you will see it is areas of high illegal immigration.

The spread of disease is yet another reason our borders need to be secure.
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#2918027 - 08/23/12 06:38 PM Re: The Obama Illegal Vote Buying Plan [Re: citico_tim]
Wes Parrish
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The below may allude more to a "vote-buying plan" aimed at legal voters, but . . . . . .

A Challenge for Obama on Anniversary of Welfare Reform


Sixteen years ago this week, President Clinton signed the 1996 bipartisan welfare reform which he lauded as ďending welfare as we know it.Ē This anniversary offers President Obama a unique opportunity to honor the historic achievement.

At the heart of the 1996 law was a simple principle: no one in America should get money from the government for doing nothing. We knew the welfare system of the past was corroding the work ethic, destroying families, bankrupting our country, and most tragically of all, entrapping the poor.

And as a state senator from Illinois, our current president opposed it.

But contrary to the dire predictions of the Left, welfare reform proved to be one of the most successful social policies in American history. Two-thirds of welfare recipients got a job or went to school. Within 4 years, 4.2 million people rose up from poverty. In five years, child poverty was at an all-time low, having dropped by 25 percent.

The work requirement was the key to achieving these gains.

But last month, President Obamaís Department of Health and Human Services issued a memo announcing it would grant states waivers on the work requirements.

Apparently the Obama administration didnít believe the bureaucratic change would be noticed. When challenged, however, they denied attempting to weaken the requirements (an authority which the memo asserted but which is explicitly prohibited in the law).

The apparent conflict between the Obama administrationís memo unilaterally empowering itself to waive the work requirement and the Obama White Houseís denial that will ever take advantage of this new authority present the President with an opportunity on this 16th anniversary of the law: If he has no intention of waiving the requirements, he should denounce the memo and he should direct the secretary of HHS to officially rescind it.

Then weíll know for sure if the president truly believes work should remain at the center of welfare reform.

---- Newt Gingrich 08-23-2012

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