#2916382 - 08/22/12 12:21 PM
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I'm a non resident who ownes property in Houston Co. and looking to have my 11 year old son start deer and small game hunting with me. Have read the TN regulations and am confused. What does he need to get started?
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#2916480 - 08/22/12 01:57 PM
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He will need to be hunter safety certified.
He will not need a LICENSE until he is 13. However, if he wants to shoot antlerless deer on the Unit L Special Season hunts (everyday in Unit L) he will need a Type 94 PERMIT.
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#2916488 - 08/22/12 02:02 PM
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I am not TWRA, however, I thought I would share this because of my past experiences taking juveniles over the years. If I am not mistaken, due to the fact he will not have a big game license or license number, he will use his SSN to check a deer in. Is this still the case Steve?
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#2917032 - 08/22/12 09:53 PM
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Clan he hunt under land owner exemption, on his land in Houston Co.? And not need a license?
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#2917063 - 08/22/12 10:20 PM
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Once he is 13 he will need a youth/junior license. That will cover everything except migratory birds, correct? I may be mistaken
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#2917095 - 08/22/12 11:01 PM
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Clan he hunt under land owner exemption, on his land in Houston Co.? And not need a license?
Since he is a nonresident he is not eligible for the landowner exemption.
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#2917096 - 08/22/12 11:04 PM
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Once he is 13 he will need a youth/junior license. That will cover everything except migratory birds, correct? I may be mistaken
Incorrect.
At the age of 13 to hunt big and small game he will need a Junior All Game license of Type 085 or 086.
ALL ages of hunters, both resident and nonresident, need the type 94 permit to shoot antlerless deer during the Unit L G/M/A season.
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#2917220 - 08/23/12 06:52 AM
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He will need to be hunter safety certified.
He will not need a LICENSE until he is 13. However, if he wants to shoot antlerless deer on the Unit L Special Season hunts (everyday in Unit L) he will need a Type 94 PERMIT.
SCN, does he have his own bag limits or does it count against mine? And if he has his own bag limits do I use his ss# as Andy S. stated to check in the deer?
Great information guys....Thanks!
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#2917265 - 08/23/12 07:46 AM
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He has his own bag limits. If you buy a Type 94 permit then he will have a TWRA ID number for the checking station.
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#2917303 - 08/23/12 08:22 AM
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He has his own bag limits. If you buy a Type 94 permit then he will have a TWRA ID number for the checking station.
I would think one with landowner exemption would use his or her SSN to check in big game as well. Is this true?
Suggestion: if what I have outlined here is true, it would be nice to incorporate this SSN verbiage into next years H&T Guide in an effort to reduce this confusion among the public, especially young hunters who we are trying to recruit.
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#2917311 - 08/23/12 08:29 AM
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He has his own bag limits. If you buy a Type 94 permit then he will have a TWRA ID number for the checking station. What does a juvenile without a license use to check in big game if he or she does not purchase type 094? SSN? The reason I stress this is SO MANY young hunters with no hunting license have parents/guardians/mentors taking them hunting that have no clue how to identify their kid when they get to the check station with their deer/turkey. I have witnessed this repeatedly over the last five years. The checking agent at the counter is just as lost as the parents/guardians/mentors. Furthermore, I have not been able to find this explicit verbiage in the H&T Guide. I may have missed it, but I do not think it is clearly stated, at least not that I could find. I would think one with landowner exemption would use his or her SSN to check in big game as well. Is this true? Suggestion: if what I have outlined here is true, it would be nice to incorporate this SSN verbiage into next years H&T Guide in an effort to reduce this confusion among the public, especially young hunters who we are trying to recruit.
To check in big game the hunter has to have a TWRA ID/profile created in the computer system. When they buy their first license or get hunter safety certified then they are "in the system". Before that, the system will creat their profile on checking in their first big game animal. Their social Security # is required to create that profile.
Once they create their profile and get their TWRA ID #, they are good to go from that point on.
I'll give your suggestion on some better info on the SS# to our I&E folks. Thanks!
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#2917320 - 08/23/12 08:37 AM
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Thanks for clarifying that Steve.
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#2917482 - 08/23/12 10:25 AM
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He has his own bag limits. If you buy a Type 94 permit then he will have a TWRA ID number for the checking station. What does a juvenile without a license use to check in big game if he or she does not purchase type 094? SSN? The reason I stress this is SO MANY young hunters with no hunting license have parents/guardians/mentors taking them hunting that have no clue how to identify their kid when they get to the check station with their deer/turkey. I have witnessed this repeatedly over the last five years. The checking agent at the counter is just as lost as the parents/guardians/mentors. Furthermore, I have not been able to find this explicit verbiage in the H&T Guide. I may have missed it, but I do not think it is clearly stated, at least not that I could find. I would think one with landowner exemption would use his or her SSN to check in big game as well. Is this true? Suggestion: if what I have outlined here is true, it would be nice to incorporate this SSN verbiage into next years H&T Guide in an effort to reduce this confusion among the public, especially young hunters who we are trying to recruit. To check in big game the hunter has to have a TWRA ID/profile created in the computer system. When they buy their first license or get hunter safety certified then they are "in the system". Before that, the system will creat their profile on checking in their first big game animal. Their social Security # is required to create that profile. Once they create their profile and get their TWRA ID #, they are good to go from that point on. I'll give your suggestion on some better info on the SS# to our I&E folks. Thanks!
My son will be getting his safety certificate in Michigan next weekend. Will that apply to getting in the system in Tennessee. Glad you guys are out there steering me in the right direction.
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#2917966 - 08/23/12 05:06 PM
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He has his own bag limits. If you buy a Type 94 permit then he will have a TWRA ID number for the checking station. What does a juvenile without a license use to check in big game if he or she does not purchase type 094? SSN? The reason I stress this is SO MANY young hunters with no hunting license have parents/guardians/mentors taking them hunting that have no clue how to identify their kid when they get to the check station with their deer/turkey. I have witnessed this repeatedly over the last five years. The checking agent at the counter is just as lost as the parents/guardians/mentors. Furthermore, I have not been able to find this explicit verbiage in the H&T Guide. I may have missed it, but I do not think it is clearly stated, at least not that I could find. I would think one with landowner exemption would use his or her SSN to check in big game as well. Is this true? Suggestion: if what I have outlined here is true, it would be nice to incorporate this SSN verbiage into next years H&T Guide in an effort to reduce this confusion among the public, especially young hunters who we are trying to recruit. To check in big game the hunter has to have a TWRA ID/profile created in the computer system. When they buy their first license or get hunter safety certified then they are "in the system". Before that, the system will creat their profile on checking in their first big game animal. Their social Security # is required to create that profile. Once they create their profile and get their TWRA ID #, they are good to go from that point on. I'll give your suggestion on some better info on the SS# to our I&E folks. Thanks! My son will be getting his safety certificate in Michigan next weekend. Will that apply to getting in the system in Tennessee. Glad you guys are out there steering me in the right direction.
His hunter safety certification from Michigan will cover him in TN if it comes from the Michigan DNR.
It will not get him into our "system". If you buy him the type 94 permit to hunt antlerless deer during the regular gun season, he will be in the system. He does not need that permit for the young sportsman hunt.
Otherwise, just make sure you have his SS# when you go to the checking station to check in his first deer. They will enter in his information and create his TWRA profile at that time, and then he will be intergrated from that point on.
If I've confused more than helped, please give me a call at 615-781-6580 and I can probabloy do a better job of clarifying some of the regs over the phone.
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#2918475 - 08/24/12 06:32 AM
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SCN...makes perfect sense! Thanks so much for the clarification, much appreciated!
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