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#2909244 - 08/16/12 04:10 AM mathews has let me down
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Got this brand new helim and all of a sudden they are a bad squeek when u draw it and if you let it down had my bow shop look at it and they called mathews and they said it was the Limb Turret cracked its kinda crazy to pay that much for a bow and not even 6 months old and done ordering replacement parts.
anybody else ever bought a bow and have to order replacement parts that soon?


Edited by reloadxx (08/16/12 04:28 AM)
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#2909246 - 08/16/12 04:44 AM Re: mathews has let me down [Re: reloadxx]
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That Helim has been a problem child for Mathews this yr. Seems like they went with cheaper components on it and are running into problems here and there. I went in one bow shop that the bow tech was loving it...best bow they ever made. A month later and he'd already replaced several things on it and last time I was there, was talking about going back to a Z7 Xtreme.
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#2909247 - 08/16/12 04:49 AM Re: mathews has let me down [Re: Crow Terminator]
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Thats about what the bow shop was saying also they went cheap on alot of parts but you sure cant tell it by the price thats for sure
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#2909251 - 08/16/12 04:59 AM Re: mathews has let me down [Re: reloadxx]
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Well dang! Hope you get it fixed and it doesn't give you anymore problems!
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#2909270 - 08/16/12 05:37 AM Re: mathews has let me down [Re: Buck Assassin]
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I don't know how much a helium cost, but I'm sure it's not cheap. That's rediculous if they are actually using cheap parts.

Edited by ghosthunter (08/16/12 05:38 AM)
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#2909271 - 08/16/12 05:40 AM Re: mathews has let me down [Re: Buck Assassin]
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Yea me to i really enjoy shooting this bow with the solid back wall
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#2909362 - 08/16/12 07:37 AM Re: mathews has let me down [Re: reloadxx]
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I sure hate to hear that man. Im a Mathews lover, but you need to call and voice your feelings to Mathews. They usually have pretty good customer service.
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#2909485 - 08/16/12 09:07 AM Re: mathews has let me down [Re: REM7]
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 Originally Posted By: REM7
I sure hate to hear that man. Im a Mathews lover, but you need to call and voice your feelings to Mathews. They usually have pretty good customer service.


They actually have Great customer service, but for the prices they charge....they darn well better.

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#2910773 - 08/17/12 07:14 AM Re: mathews has let me down [Re: TNDeerGuy]
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I don't think the problem is that they went cheap, I believe they are just trying to go too light. It's always a problem when trying to get walls thinner, pieces smaller, and everything lighter. Lightweight items have historically had reliability issues.
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#2910878 - 08/17/12 08:51 AM Re: mathews has let me down [Re: whiskey]
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To reduce weight Mathews changed components on the Helium. Some people perceive the Helium as having cheap components but these components are meant to reduce weight.

I personally am not a fan of the Helium but many people love them.

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#2910885 - 08/17/12 08:55 AM Re: mathews has let me down [Re: whiskey]
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There aren't "cheap" parts on the bow.. Sometimes people run into issues. It happens with EVERY bow maker... When you bought your bow, you also bought a LIFETIME warranty. They take care of their customers. The Helim isn't a problem child, and is a AWESOME bow.
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#2911480 - 08/17/12 05:07 PM Re: mathews has let me down [Re: Rickym]
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 Originally Posted By: Rickym
There aren't "cheap" parts on the bow.. Sometimes people run into issues. It happens with EVERY bow maker... When you bought your bow, you also bought a LIFETIME warranty. They take care of their customers. The Helim isn't a problem child, and is a AWESOME bow.


I was surprised when the Helium was released of the price considering the reduction of the top string suppressor and the simple carbon cable guard and string stop. Not sure why they increased the price on the Helium vs the Z series.

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#2911484 - 08/17/12 05:12 PM Re: mathews has let me down [Re: UTGrad]
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 Originally Posted By: UTGrad
 Originally Posted By: Rickym
There aren't "cheap" parts on the bow.. Sometimes people run into issues. It happens with EVERY bow maker... When you bought your bow, you also bought a LIFETIME warranty. They take care of their customers. The Helim isn't a problem child, and is a AWESOME bow.


I was surprised when the Helium was released of the price considering the reduction of the top string suppressor and the simple carbon cable guard and string stop. Not sure why they increased the price on the Helium vs the Z series.


I'm not surprised at all considering all of the marketing/hype they put into advertising the weight reduction and other the other "benefits", simple economic theory in action—high demand + limited supply = higher prices because people will pay for it.

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#2911502 - 08/17/12 05:58 PM Re: mathews has let me down [Re: TNDeerGuy]
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Lighter isn't always better when it comes to bows . Unless you are carrying a bow for miles while hunting , there is no advantage to shooting a lighter bow for hunting . A heavier bow is more stable at at full draw . I don't care what the fanboys try to promote as the latest and greatest from any manufacturer , not just Mathews .
If a light bow shoots better ,then don't add a weighted stabilizer to it and try to shoot it accurately !
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#2911543 - 08/17/12 07:05 PM Re: mathews has let me down [Re: Radar]
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I disagree with it not being their problem child. There's too many cases of the same things occurring with different Helim bows all across the country.

For the average hunter who shoots less than 300 times a year....they might not have a single issue. For a hardcore hunter that slings arrows year round and is NOT trying to sell them or on a shooting staff/contingency program...issues are going to come up that normally wouldn't. Call them cheaper components or just "lighter" components...either way you "paint the pig", they are having issues with them. Most staff/shop shooters wont keep them long enough to notice anything bad....they'll dump them when they release next yrs model then IT will magically become the greatest and most awesome bow ever.

I personally think their 2011-2012 MR series is the best lineup they've ever had. The Jewel is the smoothest single cam bow they've ever made IMO...have shot ever single bow they've produced since about 1999. My wife's Jewel has about 1,200 shots on it and the only problem we've had is string stretching...but that's to be expected with most factory strings. I've not heard of hardly any problems with the newer MR series...nothing consistent as in a wide spread problem.

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#2911585 - 08/17/12 08:44 PM Re: mathews has let me down [Re: UTGrad]
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I went back to my Drenlin!!
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#2911623 - 08/17/12 09:44 PM Re: mathews has let me down [Re: Radar]
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 Originally Posted By: Radar
Lighter isn't always better when it comes to bows . Unless you are carrying a bow for miles while hunting , there is no advantage to shooting a lighter bow for hunting . A heavier bow is more stable at at full draw . I don't care what the fanboys try to promote as the latest and greatest from any manufacturer , not just Mathews .
If a light bow shoots better ,then don't add a weighted stabilizer to it and try to shoot it accurately !


Agreed. A heavier bow (within reason) results in a steadier pin. If I put on one of those "5" light stabilizers my pin floats. With my current set up and a rather heavy bow the pin is steady when I'm shooting good.

For people that don't shoot a bunch and hike a long way the lightweight bow will make hunting easier.

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#2912447 - 08/18/12 09:24 PM Re: mathews has let me down [Re: UTGrad]
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Had a 2010 Z7 put at least 2500 shots through it and did develop a cracked limb, but they fixed it quickly. The company is solid. Although I like my current bow a lot better, the Z7 was a shooter. The string stretch was the only thing that I got very tired of. I shoot a lot and about every two to three weeks would have to fix peep rotation. My current bow doesn't have this problem, but if a problem develops Mathews will fix it quickly if you have a good dealer. The cam you are talking about have been know to do this. and it is an easy fix. So no worries
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#2912540 - 08/18/12 10:49 PM Re: mathews has let me down [Re: Crow Terminator]
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 Originally Posted By: Crow Terminator
That Helim has been a problem child for Mathews this yr. Seems like they went with cheaper components on it and are running into problems here and there. I went in one bow shop that the bow tech was loving it...best bow they ever made. A month later and he'd already replaced several things on it and last time I was there, was talking about going back to a Z7 Xtreme.


I think it's the "cheapest" looking bow they've ever made! I am a HUGE Mathews fan, it the only bow I'll ever own, but the helim looks like corners were cut, price stayed the same and to justify it they promote it as a light weight bow!
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#2916145 - 08/22/12 08:38 AM Re: mathews has let me down [Re: W.Seay]
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Ok guys your just not making sense. Im a huge bowmaker with a reputation of being the best bow out there and I put out an inferior product after a lot of marketing hype. And kill my reputation. I doubt it. Everyone I know that is shooting them loves them its the folks that havent picked it up that seem to be bashing it

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#2917557 - 08/23/12 11:37 AM Re: mathews has let me down [Re: W.Seay]
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 Originally Posted By: W.Seay
 Originally Posted By: Crow Terminator
That Helim has been a problem child for Mathews this yr. Seems like they went with cheaper components on it and are running into problems here and there. I went in one bow shop that the bow tech was loving it...best bow they ever made. A month later and he'd already replaced several things on it and last time I was there, was talking about going back to a Z7 Xtreme.


I think it's the "cheapest" looking bow they've ever made! I am a HUGE Mathews fan, it the only bow I'll ever own, but the helim looks like corners were cut, price stayed the same and to justify it they promote it as a light weight bow!


Agreed! I'm a fan of Mathews and have shot one bow or another of theirs for over 10 years. I picked up the heli when it first come out and was amazed at how cheap it looked and felt. When I shot it a dozen times or so I handed it back to the bowshop
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#2921805 - 08/27/12 08:50 AM Re: mathews has let me down [Re: nabowhunter]
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Love mine and Phil and aaron out at Shelby forest Archery said theyve sold a bunch and not had a single problem.
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#2921959 - 08/27/12 10:42 AM Re: mathews has let me down [Re: volsgo1]
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Well got it fixed today and turns out it was the limb bolts and the little pocket that the bolts set in . Now its back to normal no sound
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#2925472 - 08/29/12 07:56 PM Re: mathews has let me down [Re: reloadxx]
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Glad u got it fixed! Started to upgrade my drenalin but i can't make myself do it!
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