#2903228 - 08/10/12 07:02 PM
Re: would you be afraid to carry a 45 for bear defense
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pseshooter300
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Well i have been around bears and killed one this past fall when i shot it come straight down the hill at me i had nothing else but a muzzle loader. And with the ranger deal im pretty sure everyone would agree if a bear is charging especially when they have cubs if it is me or the bear the bear is getting it.
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#2903230 - 08/10/12 07:04 PM
Re: would you be afraid to carry a 45 for bear defense
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pseshooter300
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I also think going out west i would rather have the 10mm for grizz
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#2903233 - 08/10/12 07:08 PM
Re: would you be afraid to carry a 45 for bear defense
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pcrc
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I shoot steel falling plates with a bunch of guys on a regular basis. We have one guy who shoots a Glock 20 in 10mm with 180 grain bullets. It is far and away the hardest hitting bullet I have seen so far. And besides that if the bullet doesnt do the job the noise of the 10mm will.
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#2903260 - 08/10/12 07:34 PM
Re: would you be afraid to carry a 45 for bear defense
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I would want at least a 45 Long Colt,maybe a 44 Rem Mag but would rather have the 45 loaded hot with 300+ gr bullets.
the S&W Model 25 would be nice to have
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#2903276 - 08/10/12 08:00 PM
Re: would you be afraid to carry a 45 for bear defense
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Nyper
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I wouldn't hesitate to carry it. It might not be as efficient as a .44 or something... but I love Glocks and have more confidence in my ability to put multiple shots in to the bear with a G21 than a .44.
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#2903342 - 08/10/12 09:22 PM
Re: would you be afraid to carry a 45 for bear defense
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Deerhunter
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As the owner of botha a G20sf and G21sf, I carry the 10mm in the woods. If I didnt have it I wouldn't hesitate to carry the 45. I deal with black bears almost weekly and sometimes daily at work, and they seem to want very little to do with humans. In a worst case scenario though I would want as much firepower as possible. Hard to argue with 15+1 of full power 10mm.
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#2903375 - 08/10/12 09:52 PM
Re: would you be afraid to carry a 45 for bear defense
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I finished off a deer with Win Ranger T Series 230 gr +p out of my Kimber last year, and was very underwhelmed with the penetration I got. Most 45 ACP hollow points are made for self defense against 2 legged critters, not 4. The hair and skin of a deer is alot thicker than a human, the bear will be even thicker with more fat, muscle, and bigger bones. The 10 or 357 with hunting bullets would be a better choice. If all I had was a 45, I suppose I would carry 230 gr Buffalo Bore +p flat point FMJs. That way I know it will at least get into and maybe through a bear.
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#2903444 - 08/10/12 11:32 PM
Re: would you be afraid to carry a 45 for bear defense
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i saw the deer shot with 45 too
not impressed as kimberman said
for me
.41 mag
or 460 mag
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#2904050 - 08/11/12 09:03 PM
Re: would you be afraid to carry a 45 for bear defense
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fishboy1
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Another vote for .45LC Load up with a 300gr XTP mag and you have some serious business.
Since you want an auto loader, Bullet choice will be more important. A soft hollow point will probably not penetrate well enough to win the argument as fast as you like.
Go with a tougher construction or FMJ or flat nose with a bit harder alloy and a hot or +P load if your gun will take it.
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#2904131 - 08/11/12 10:31 PM
Re: would you be afraid to carry a 45 for bear defense
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eightpointer
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I would think its plenty.
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