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#2891818 - 07/31/12 04:09 PM Re: Rockfish.... Good or Bad [Re: AllOutdoors]
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Here is the real pathetic part of this whole arguement. You guys want to take Setterman and I out and kick our butts because we would support killing a few stripers in a river managed and paid by fishermen for trout.....However, NOT ONE of you would pass up a chance to kill a coyote 24/7/365 because they kill deer. Documented, up to 30% of a deer herd at any one given year is killed off by coyotes. KILL 'em ALL I have seen written on this board for years about coyotes, (subject lines started and cheered on by the masses, me included) but kill one or two stripers in a trout stream? Blasphemy! Their the same, one is land and one is water. Invasive species killing managed species. You and I paid for the deer herd to be MANAGED in TN, as do trout fishermen pay for the trout steams to be managed. $1,800,000 to be exact. How much is a striper stamp?

And again to a previous post. If you fish with conventional hooks with bait for stripers you KILL more fish than I do on a trout stream. Put your money where your mouth is and fish only with circle hooks to protect your beloved stripers. Get the laws changed if you want to protect your species, or just harp on a couple of buggy whippers that hate stripers in trout streams like coyotes on a deer lease.


Edited by 7mm08 (07/31/12 04:23 PM)
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#2891822 - 07/31/12 04:11 PM Re: Rockfish.... Good or Bad [Re: Setterman]
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 Originally Posted By: Setterman
I wish Norris was warm or the way it was before the dam was built and was a great smallmouth river like the headwaters.

What makes one fishery in peril and one in great shape with respect to Striped Bass? Plenty of world class Striped Bass in the upper Clinch and Powell rivers (especially the Powell) - and yet the smallmouth fishery in the headwaters is "great".

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#2891906 - 07/31/12 05:11 PM Re: Rockfish.... Good or Bad [Re: AllOutdoors]
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Them Smallmouth are eating all my perch.
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#2891931 - 07/31/12 05:44 PM Re: Rockfish.... Good or Bad [Re: bob]
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 Originally Posted By: bob
Them Smallmouth are eating all my perch.


and the turkeys are killing my grouse! Good one!
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#2891941 - 07/31/12 05:51 PM Re: Rockfish.... Good or Bad [Re: bob]
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 Originally Posted By: bob
Them Smallmouth are eating all my perch.


I just switched baits to a large swimbait and caught the rockfish. They pull hard in the current!
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#2892163 - 07/31/12 08:32 PM Re: Rockfish.... Good or Bad [Re: S.vitreum]
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 Originally Posted By: S.vitreum
 Originally Posted By: Setterman
I wish Norris was warm or the way it was before the dam was built and was a great smallmouth river like the headwaters.

What makes one fishery in peril and one in great shape with respect to Striped Bass? Plenty of world class Striped Bass in the upper Clinch and Powell rivers (especially the Powell) - and yet the smallmouth fishery in the headwaters is "great".

???


I assume you are referring to the reservoir sections of the Clinch/Powell, because after roughly 100 days on both I have seen one striper and it was downstream of a huge shad school.

In the lake there are enough shad to spread out the damage and cause no significant impact to the fishery IMO.

If you go back and actually retread my comments you will see I have very little issues when stripers inhabit waterways with good shad populations to feed their massive appetites.

7 mm I 100% agree with your post above, and am glad you chimed in with the perfect response to the striper protectors. What folks don't realize about you is that you fish for stripers as much as trout in other places and to my knowledge never kill them in those places. Just the same as me.

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#2892171 - 07/31/12 08:34 PM Re: Rockfish.... Good or Bad [Re: BDavis]
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 Originally Posted By: BDavis
your opinions don't outweigh the law and if you kill more than your creel limit you are a poacher, and why am I arguing with a poacher?


Who is a poacher?

Again you make absurd claims which must make sense to you because they don't to anyone else including the TWRA officers on this forum.

Simple thought from a simple person I guess is the only explanation.

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#2892212 - 07/31/12 08:52 PM Re: Rockfish.... Good or Bad [Re: Setterman]
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call me simple, I'd rather be simple than a(I had to edit this after reading the rules of the site). What it comes down to is too many ignorant people killing off one heck of a fishery. Heck lets just kill everything that swims or moves. What will we have then to do? Fishermen have just about wiped out the musky population on Melton Hill over the last few years because all those muskies eat all the crappie. When they pile up at the steamplant, lots of people go in there and wipe them out with trout on a balloon. Over the last 7 years you went from seeing a good number of muskies on a given day to barely seeing any at all. And nobody wants to do anything about it but let the fishery crumble because the TWRA doesnt want to upset any group of fishermen. The reason I get upset is that these trophy fish aren't in big numbers on the Clinch, but I still enjoy chasing them the rest of the year when they are down in the lake. If you kill them all then I won't have much to fish for the rest of the year and that makes me alittle sick. Those fish help keep the gizzard shad population in check on Melton Hill. Those stripers seek refuge up on the Clinch when the bottom half of the lake gets too warm. If you want to keep a few fish thats fine but to get online and brag about spilling guts isn't too cool. To kill a fish just because you despise them makes you a poacher in my book and I have no respect for that stupidity.
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#2892252 - 07/31/12 09:13 PM Re: Rockfish.... Good or Bad [Re: BDavis]
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Sorry Folks but this thread is done.
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