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#2851038 - 06/14/12 10:46 AM Re: Poll on deer hunting activity [Re: 102]
8 POINTS OR BETTER
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 Originally Posted By: 102
Making a statement about setting buck limits or length of gun season based on a hunters experience with a few Tn. Counties over a few years is like trying to fix the US economy by regulating gas prices to 1.00 per gallon. That will be GREAT for some of us, but in the long run, it does NOT fix the US economy.

I have been fortunate enough in the past 30 years to not only have been able to hunt across state from Polk County to Hickman County, but also in Alabama, N.C., Ky, Ga., and Illinois. Mostly on Public, high pressured land, but also a little private land sprinkled in the mix.

Not only are the areas different county by county, let alone State to State, but these counties can be dramatically different from one side of the road to the other. IT has literally taken me YEARS of note keeping, scouting, and hunting to find the "golden" spots. It has not been easy.

But in all this, there are a few things of which I am certain...

1-CONSISTENT success, year in and year out, is MOSTLY about one's ability to KNOW what areas to begin looking at and then scouting. Rather than trying to change state or local laws, that ultimately will do nothing to improve overall success rates, hunters should adapt to changing conditions, pressures, weather, and GEOGRAPHY. Kinda like deer do, in order to be CONSISTENTLY successful. HUNT THEM WHERE THEY ARE! Rather than trying to grow them where they are not, and probably will not be in your life.

2-I have been to Ky. and heard "the Fourth of July" opener. AND IN ILLINOIS. All I can say is...VERY IMPRESSIVE. UN BELIEVABLE. I actually feel sorry for the deer. (and the hunters). That first day there is not a minute that goes by without a shot being fired. Deer go nocturnal as do squirrels, turkeys and even ticks. It is simply amazing.

In areas that I frequent I have never witnessed anything as drastic in Tennessee. Deer in Tennessee do get to be much more difficult to see, but not like Ky., and Illinois.



102
How many mature (4.5+) bucks have you killed in the last five years?
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#2851059 - 06/14/12 11:06 AM Re: Poll on deer hunting activity [Re: 8 POINTS OR BETTER]
Headhunter
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Thank you there, Beekeeper, I have never thought of hunting a thick area. New idea there, LOL.
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#2851063 - 06/14/12 11:10 AM Re: Poll on deer hunting activity [Re: Bone Collector]
BigWes22
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Submitted my votes
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#2851143 - 06/14/12 12:45 PM Re: Poll on deer hunting activity [Re: Headhunter]
Beekeeper
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 Originally Posted By: Headhunter
Thank you there, Beekeeper, I have never thought of hunting a thick area. New idea there, LOL.
After reading your posts I was wondering if you knew to adapt to the deers movement or you just hope that the deer would adapt to your chosen method of hunting!!
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#2851190 - 06/14/12 01:42 PM Re: Poll on deer hunting activity [Re: Beekeeper]
Headhunter
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How long have you hunted and how many deer have you killed in Tennessee? How many (let's say just nice bucks because that is all I have killed) nice bucks have you killed in Tennessee? I definitely have no care or desire to brag in anyway, but I believe real experience and kills are something to consider when asking or giving advice. I know I am far from one of the better deer hunters, but I am PERSISTENT.

Funny thing is, I used to believe, with even more conviction than anyone on here, the way that everyone does who is against a lower limit or a shorter season. In my younger days, I would have argued, anywhere at anytime, against anyone who wanted to try to tell me a shorter season or a lower limit would be a good thing.


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#2851198 - 06/14/12 02:08 PM Re: Poll on deer hunting activity [Re: Headhunter]
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All my bucks were nice, to me anyway. ;\)
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#2851246 - 06/14/12 03:05 PM Re: Poll on deer hunting activity [Re: Headhunter]
Andy S.
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Loc: Atoka, TN

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 Originally Posted By: Headhunter
In my younger days, I would have argued, anywhere at anytime, against anyone who wanted to try to tell me a shorter season or a lower limit would be a good thing.
What was the basis for your strong opinion back then (your previous way of thinking)? I am assuming that you must have felt pretty good/strongly about something back then (pertaining to deer hunting, seasons, limits, etc) to make you argue that point, just as you feel strongly today about the reduced limit, shorter season preference that you desire. What changed your mind to make you do a complete 180 and have a change of heart in what you desire in the deer woods (length of season, limits, etc)? For lack of a better explanation, I am trying to understand why/how one day you push(ed) for agenda A and now you are totally against agenda A and now you support agenda B to the fullest. Please explain.
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#2851290 - 06/14/12 04:03 PM Re: Poll on deer hunting activity [Re: gatodoc]
smstone22
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60% for two or less. This is trending more conservatively every year here on TNdeer as well as "off the net". I think we could agree on that.
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#2851297 - 06/14/12 04:10 PM Re: Poll on deer hunting activity [Re: Headhunter]
Beekeeper
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 Originally Posted By: Headhunter
How long have you hunted and how many deer have you killed in Tennessee? How many (let's say just nice bucks because that is all I have killed) nice bucks have you killed in Tennessee?
I have hunted for about 40 years. I didn't start hunting til I was in my late teens. I didn't have a mentor so what I learned in the first years I learned by myself. I didn't kill a deer til 1977 but since that time I have killed over 150 all of them in East Tennessee. Every deer I have killed was special to me. When I quit getting the adrenalin rush and the sweaty hands when I get a chance to kill a deer I will probably find something else to do with my time and money.

I have never cared about the size of the antlers on a deer and I have mounted only one of the 150+ I have killed. I have given a lot of antlers away and I have a lot just laying around. I hunt because I enjoy hunting not to try and prove anything to any one. I see the mounts you have as a tremendous wast of money and wall space but if you enjoy them it is your business, not anyone else.

When I started deer hunting I only had 2 weeks to hunt. Now I get to hunt 8 or more weeks and I like it!!!
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#2851395 - 06/14/12 07:23 PM Re: Poll on deer hunting activity [Re: Beekeeper]
102
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Registered: 08/01/02
Posts: 4041
Loc: Tennessee

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 Originally Posted By: Beekeeper
 Originally Posted By: Headhunter
How long have you hunted and how many deer have you killed in Tennessee? How many (let's say just nice bucks because that is all I have killed) nice bucks have you killed in Tennessee?
I have hunted for about 40 years. I didn't start hunting til I was in my late teens. I didn't have a mentor so what I learned in the first years I learned by myself. I didn't kill a deer til 1977 but since that time I have killed over 150 all of them in East Tennessee. Every deer I have killed was special to me. When I quit getting the adrenalin rush and the sweaty hands when I get a chance to kill a deer I will probably find something else to do with my time and money.

I have never cared about the size of the antlers on a deer and I have mounted only one of the 150+ I have killed. I have given a lot of antlers away and I have a lot just laying around. I hunt because I enjoy hunting not to try and prove anything to any one. I see the mounts you have as a tremendous wast of money and wall space but if you enjoy them it is your business, not anyone else.

When I started deer hunting I only had 2 weeks to hunt. Now I get to hunt 8 or more weeks and I like it!!!


Honestly, this EXACT reason is why I will NOT support a change in the TWRA limits UNLESS TWRA decides that it is for the good of the herd. Or has proof that a lowered buck limit is what the majority of Tn hunters want. Not just a few members on the best campfire on the net.

Well said beekeeper, I believe you agree with the majority of hunters I have spoken with in Tennessee.

I selfishly would like to see lower limits, but not at the expense of a majority of hunter participation, and enjoyment.



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