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#2837175 - 05/24/12 09:35 PM Re: 4th highest harvest recorded [Re: muddyboots]
REN
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I gotcha muddy and I'm really not trying to start anything. My main point was TN as a whole is a dang good state to hunt in. Also You are making a judgment of limits based on your area rather then a much larger scale.

Also as far as hens, the life span of hens va gobblers is much lower which has a lot to do with the ratio depending on pred rates and winter habitat.

A simple response to limit questions is the total population has grown steadily the past 4-6 years even with the limits.
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#2837180 - 05/24/12 09:40 PM Re: 4th highest harvest recorded [Re: ]
REN
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 Originally Posted By: Swamphunter
 Originally Posted By: REN
WOW, an almost all time high for state population and people are still not happy with things.


REN, you have to look at things from both sides. Why do you think I drive 5 hours to hunt with you and Grizz? Besides the grat company, of course! \:D Because the hunting in West TN sucks! Why do you think I drive 2.5 hours one way for decent turkey hunting? You live in a turkey paradise and have some incredible farms to hunt. Everyone isn't so fortunate. We need units and West TN needs alot of help.


I don't disagree but units have reason why they won't work either. There are areas in west tn that are doing well especially compared to past populations and yes some still need help. "hunting" does not have as much of an impact on populations as some think as well.

I am more then thankful for the areas I hunt even if they are not as good as they once were. Every thing runs in cycles and some years are just gonna be down and others up that's just what happens when you depend on a finicky animal with a short life cycle like a turkey.
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#2837185 - 05/24/12 09:45 PM Re: 4th highest harvest recorded [Re: ]
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oh my gosh people some of you need to do a little traveling and talking if yall think the populations are good statewide. Wayne and Lawrence and hardin counties use to be right up there with murray and giles as far as numbers, now its an absolute SHI* hole for the most part. I do not know why and i dont blame twra, WHERE MY PROBLEM ARISES IS THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR 7 OR 8 YEARS. I ASKED A LEADING TWRA OFFICIAL WHAT WAS GOING ON AND HE SAID THEY STARTED DOING STUDIES THIS YEAR, I SAID WHY ARE THEY JUST NOW STARTING? his answer: WE HAVE JUST CAUGHT WIND OF IT?????? give me a freaking break people have been screaming these facts for nearly 10 years.

I love how people in the still turkey infested counties are so up to tell you how good the hunting is when they never leave there area to see statewide.
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#2837195 - 05/24/12 09:53 PM Re: 4th highest harvest recorded [Re: Rockhound]
REN
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Well I have hunted in more areas then middle tn if you are aiming that at me. In addition I know a few biologists that work for the state and I assure you they didn't "just start".

Also the population ACROSS the state as I put it has gone up and that's a simple fact.
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#2837198 - 05/24/12 09:56 PM Re: 4th highest harvest recorded [Re: REN]
REN
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Before this gets to far I want to be clear that I am not TWRA goon or stating the season and limits are perfect.

My point was some want to complain about the 4th best totals in history which is hard to understand. TN is a top 5 state to hunt with a long season and liberal bag limit which makes it one of the best to hunt period.
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#2837212 - 05/24/12 10:14 PM Re: 4th highest harvest recorded [Re: REN]
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 Originally Posted By: REN
"hunting" does not have as much of an impact on populations as some think as well.


If you have several good hunters in one area, it can have a major effect when you have a four bird limit.
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#2837215 - 05/24/12 10:15 PM Re: 4th highest harvest recorded [Re: REN]
Andy S.
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 Originally Posted By: REN
......the population ACROSS the state as I put it has gone up and that's a simple fact.
How is the population calculated? Is it an estimate or a solid number that can be supported with hard data? The last estimate I saw was 300,000 birds in 2008, and that estimate was " crude at best" per Daryl's (BGG) post on TnDeer.


Edited by Andy S. (05/24/12 10:19 PM)
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#2837256 - 05/24/12 11:32 PM Re: 4th highest harvest recorded [Re: ]
catman529
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 Originally Posted By: Swamphunter
I have personally decided next year I am not going to join a lease unless I find one covered up with birds. I will spend my season in Middle TN hunting WMAs. The sad truth is the hunting here is so bad here I would rather hunt public land there.
there is good public land over here, I can show you some spots
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#2837284 - 05/25/12 03:32 AM Re: 4th highest harvest recorded [Re: REN]
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 Originally Posted By: REN
Well I have hunted in more areas then middle tn if you are aiming that at me. In addition I know a few biologists that work for the state and I assure you they didn't "just start".

Also the population ACROSS the state as I put it has gone up and that's a simple fact.


Not pointing directly at anyone thats what i was told and led to believe. As far as population we use to have one of those 15bird a mornin countiess andi can assure you renit has went nearly extinct you killed as many birds this year as i have heard in my end of the county in 7 years i promise. As far as populations going up across state maybe in the last 3 years but not the last 7 or 8 and i. Have trouble believing that. Maybe in pockets but not statewide
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#2837319 - 05/25/12 05:46 AM Re: 4th highest harvest recorded [Re: Rockhound]
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I agree that its a great place to hunt but something is definitely wrong i use to walk ten minutes one way to hunt turkey now i have to drive 1.5 hours one way to evene attempt to hunt. Its crazy how it has just went dead and the fact that they cant tell u whats going on is aggravating. As i have said in other posts i have seen more promise this year than the past 5 it has me really excited for next year but im not gettin my hopes up
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