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#2824697 - 05/09/12 09:27 AM Finally Got Number 4!
bvoss
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I've had an awesome turkey season! I'm thankful that I have the health, the hunting properties, an understanding wife, and the Lord who provides it all so that I can chase these crazy birds every year. I have an old cell phone that takes terrible pictures, so sorry I'm not posting the pics. As I made my way out of the woods this morning with my final bird I realized...I was able to watch 8 birds die this year!

Bird One and Two: Opening day with my brother. We doubled on two nice birds. His had a 9 3/4 in beard and 1 inch spurs and mine had a 10 inch beard and 1 inch spurs.

Bird Three: Took a guy who had never killed a turkey. Called in a jake and he shot it at 15 yards. Dude was tore up and I could not stop smiling.

Bird Four: I killed a nice double beard before work by getting between him and his hens. After some soft tree talk, he pitched off the roost and I shot him about a minute after his feet hit the ground. 9 in beard, 5 in beard and 1 1/8 in spurs.

Bird Five: Took my brother in law who has never killed a deer or a turkey. We worked the bird for about an hour before we put the sneak on him and it did the trick. When the bird finally died my brother in law let out a loud barbarian type roar that I could not help but laugh at. What an exciting thing to watch a guy get his first kill! 11 inch beard and 1 1/4 spurs.

Bird 6: I killed my second bird of the year before work. He hung up at 60 yards and I "fanned" my first turkey ever to get him on the ground at 35 yards. 8 3/4 in beard 7/8 spurs.

Bird 7: My other brother ( the yougest) had not killed a bird since he was 12 ( he is now 18). We called in some jakes early and he just could not get the bead on them. After a new set-up and about 45 min of blind calling a longbeard came into our decoys and he smoked him at 20 yards. Stud! 20 lbs 11 in beard and 1 7/16 in hooks!

Bird 8: After several weeks of trying to finish up I went this morning before work thinking it may be my final outing. Bird was roosted at the end of a ridge and gobbling well. I got in tight at about 80 yards or so. He pitched down and flew to about 100 yards away. Hens were roosted about 40 yards behind me so I did not even call for the majority of the time. I did some soft scratching in the leaves, and he would hammer but would just not come closer. I had to leave for work by 6:45 so at 6:30 I began sneaking his way with my B-mobile fan up. It got really quiet and I was thinking I was going to have to give up when I let out a kee-kee on my mouth call and he hammered even closer. At six fourty, I was about to have to leave this stubborn, gobbling bird when he flew up in a tree to get a better look at me ( the undergrowth was thick). He was about 50 yards or so on the limb and I had had all I could take! 9 in rope inch and 3/8 spurs.

- Ok Catman, you're not alone now in shooting one out of a tree!
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#2824708 - 05/09/12 09:44 AM Re: Finally Got Number 4! [Re: bvoss]
Andy S.
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Congrats on a great hunt that capped off a fine season. I am anxious to see how others feel about your tree shooting since it was not technically roost shooting. It appears your kee-kee peaked the curiosity of the bird. It just so happens that you called him in to you by him flying into a nearby tree that you determined was within range, thus resulting in the kill shot. Pretty interesting and unique way for it all to play out. Congrats again on a great season, both yours and the others you shared it with \:\)
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#2824795 - 05/09/12 11:33 AM Re: Finally Got Number 4! [Re: Andy S.]
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Congrats on a fine year bvoss. Looks like we will have to get together next yr. or maybe during deer season.
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#2824800 - 05/09/12 11:39 AM Re: Finally Got Number 4! [Re: bigasports]
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congrats
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#2824802 - 05/09/12 11:41 AM Re: Finally Got Number 4! [Re: bigasports]
Gravey
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Congrats on a great year. Not that it matters what I think but I have no problem shooting one off the limb that you called to and he flew in. He responded to your calls so game on. I saw Michael Waddell do it on a show one time where the bird flew tree to tree and he shot him. Whether he walked or flew in he came to the call.
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#2824838 - 05/09/12 12:09 PM Re: Finally Got Number 4! [Re: Gravey]
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Bvoss, those spurs were 1 3/16 when you text me this morn..now they are 1 3/8? You should of waited till tonight...maybe they would have been 1 3/4! I didn't know they keep growing... haha.. Just kidding. I saw the pics. Dang hooks every bit of 1 3/8. Congrats man on a great season.
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#2824842 - 05/09/12 12:13 PM Re: Finally Got Number 4! [Re: Gravey]
catman529
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congrats on a great season! Did he break any bones falling from the tree? \:D
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#2824854 - 05/09/12 12:24 PM Re: Finally Got Number 4! [Re: catman529]
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Very nice going,congrats!!
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#2824861 - 05/09/12 12:29 PM Re: Finally Got Number 4! [Re: bvoss]
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 Originally Posted By: bvoss
- Ok Catman, you're not alone now in shooting one out of a tree!



First, congrats on your season completing bird, along with all those others!!

Second, you were in a totally different situation as far as shooting him out of the tree.... and the events leading up to the shot.

I would not hesitate to repeat your situation if I was given the opportunity myself.
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#2824873 - 05/09/12 12:46 PM Re: Finally Got Number 4! [Re: Killminister]
bvoss
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 Originally Posted By: Killminister
Bvoss, those spurs were 1 3/16 when you text me this morn..now they are 1 3/8? You should of waited till tonight...maybe they would have been 1 3/4! I didn't know they keep growing... haha.. Just kidding. I saw the pics. Dang hooks every bit of 1 3/8. Congrats man on a great season.


\:D No kidding! yea they were 1 3/8".
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#2824876 - 05/09/12 12:47 PM Re: Finally Got Number 4! [Re: catman529]
bvoss
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 Originally Posted By: catman529
congrats on a great season! Did he break any bones falling from the tree? \:D


LOL! Yea I think his wing. His neck was already broken before he ever hit the dirt
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#2824920 - 05/09/12 01:39 PM Re: Finally Got Number 4! [Re: bvoss]
catman529
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 Originally Posted By: bvoss
 Originally Posted By: catman529
congrats on a great season! Did he break any bones falling from the tree? \:D


LOL! Yea I think his wing. His neck was already broken before he ever hit the dirt
mine broke his breast bone. Meat was still OK though.

I don't see it being much different from shooting off the roost. The bird is in a tree where they are safe from predators, he didn't see the hunter, and he was shot off the limb. What exactly is the ethical difference again?
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#2824978 - 05/09/12 02:34 PM Re: Finally Got Number 4! [Re: catman529]
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 Originally Posted By: catman529
 Originally Posted By: bvoss
 Originally Posted By: catman529
congrats on a great season! Did he break any bones falling from the tree? \:D


LOL! Yea I think his wing. His neck was already broken before he ever hit the dirt
mine broke his breast bone. Meat was still OK though.

I don't see it being much different from shooting off the roost. The bird is in a tree where they are safe from predators, he didn't see the hunter, and he was shot off the limb. What exactly is the ethical difference again?



One event happened around daylight after hunter snuck under said bird in said tree in the darkness, the other happened well after fly-down and after the turkey flew BACK UP into the tree for a better vantage point.... in broad daylight.
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#2825030 - 05/09/12 03:22 PM Re: Finally Got Number 4! [Re: Grizzly Johnson]
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 Originally Posted By: Grizzly Johnson
 Originally Posted By: bvoss
- Ok Catman, you're not alone now in shooting one out of a tree!



First, congrats on your season completing bird, along with all those others!!

Second, you were in a totally different situation as far as shooting him out of the tree.... and the events leading up to the shot.

I would not hesitate to repeat your situation if I was given the opportunity myself.
Congrats I agree with Grizzly you called him and shot him in the face!
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#2825070 - 05/09/12 04:00 PM Re: Finally Got Number 4! [Re: Grizzly Johnson]
catman529
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 Originally Posted By: Grizzly Johnson
 Originally Posted By: catman529
 Originally Posted By: bvoss
 Originally Posted By: catman529
congrats on a great season! Did he break any bones falling from the tree? \:D


LOL! Yea I think his wing. His neck was already broken before he ever hit the dirt
mine broke his breast bone. Meat was still OK though.

I don't see it being much different from shooting off the roost. The bird is in a tree where they are safe from predators, he didn't see the hunter, and he was shot off the limb. What exactly is the ethical difference again?



One event happened around daylight after hunter snuck under said bird in said tree in the darkness, the other happened well after fly-down and after the turkey flew BACK UP into the tree for a better vantage point.... in broad daylight.
the hunter wasn't seen by the bird in both cases... I snuck in, not in complete darkness, but at dawn at the start of legal shooting light. Bvoss was already set up in the bushes when the bird flew into the tree. Both ways the hunter was close to a bird in a tree and shot the bird. Both happened by chance too. Sorry I'm a bit stuck on this one, can you explain why one is less ethical than the other?
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#2825252 - 05/09/12 08:32 PM Re: Finally Got Number 4! [Re: catman529]
Gravey
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 Originally Posted By: catman529
 Originally Posted By: Grizzly Johnson
 Originally Posted By: catman529
 Originally Posted By: bvoss
 Originally Posted By: catman529
congrats on a great season! Did he break any bones falling from the tree? \:D


LOL! Yea I think his wing. His neck was already broken before he ever hit the dirt
mine broke his breast bone. Meat was still OK though.

I don't see it being much different from shooting off the roost. The bird is in a tree where they are safe from predators, he didn't see the hunter, and he was shot off the limb. What exactly is the ethical difference again?



One event happened around daylight after hunter snuck under said bird in said tree in the darkness, the other happened well after fly-down and after the turkey flew BACK UP into the tree for a better vantage point.... in broad daylight.
the hunter wasn't seen by the bird in both cases... I snuck in, not in complete darkness, but at dawn at the start of legal shooting light. Bvoss was already set up in the bushes when the bird flew into the tree. Both ways the hunter was close to a bird in a tree and shot the bird. Both happened by chance too. Sorry I'm a bit stuck on this one, can you explain why one is less ethical than the other?

One came into the call to check it out and one was blind luck. That's the difference. Now that said, I don't care one way or the other as both are legal.
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#2825337 - 05/09/12 09:59 PM Re: Finally Got Number 4! [Re: catman529]
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 Originally Posted By: catman529
 Originally Posted By: Grizzly Johnson
 Originally Posted By: catman529
 Originally Posted By: bvoss
 Originally Posted By: catman529
congrats on a great season! Did he break any bones falling from the tree? \:D


LOL! Yea I think his wing. His neck was already broken before he ever hit the dirt
mine broke his breast bone. Meat was still OK though.

I don't see it being much different from shooting off the roost. The bird is in a tree where they are safe from predators, he didn't see the hunter, and he was shot off the limb. What exactly is the ethical difference again?



One event happened around daylight after hunter snuck under said bird in said tree in the darkness, the other happened well after fly-down and after the turkey flew BACK UP into the tree for a better vantage point.... in broad daylight.
the hunter wasn't seen by the bird in both cases... I snuck in, not in complete darkness, but at dawn at the start of legal shooting light. Bvoss was already set up in the bushes when the bird flew into the tree. Both ways the hunter was close to a bird in a tree and shot the bird. Both happened by chance too. Sorry I'm a bit stuck on this one, can you explain why one is less ethical than the other?


As I recall reading, Bvoss was sneaking towards said bird with a fan in front of him..... how is that the same as sneaking around and getting under one in the pre-dawn?

You asked for the difference, I gave it to you with my replies.


I guess it would be comparable to opening your back door wearing pajamas and shooting a nice buck in your back yard or from a livingroom, bedroom, bathroom window. Sure it's legal, but where is the sport in it? How is that fun/sportsman like/challenging? Sure you still shoot a deer, you get meat for the table, and again legal.
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#2825361 - 05/09/12 10:32 PM Re: Finally Got Number 4! [Re: Grizzly Johnson]
catman529
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 Originally Posted By: Grizzly Johnson
 Originally Posted By: catman529
 Originally Posted By: Grizzly Johnson
 Originally Posted By: catman529
 Originally Posted By: bvoss
 Originally Posted By: catman529
congrats on a great season! Did he break any bones falling from the tree? \:D


LOL! Yea I think his wing. His neck was already broken before he ever hit the dirt
mine broke his breast bone. Meat was still OK though.

I don't see it being much different from shooting off the roost. The bird is in a tree where they are safe from predators, he didn't see the hunter, and he was shot off the limb. What exactly is the ethical difference again?



One event happened around daylight after hunter snuck under said bird in said tree in the darkness, the other happened well after fly-down and after the turkey flew BACK UP into the tree for a better vantage point.... in broad daylight.
the hunter wasn't seen by the bird in both cases... I snuck in, not in complete darkness, but at dawn at the start of legal shooting light. Bvoss was already set up in the bushes when the bird flew into the tree. Both ways the hunter was close to a bird in a tree and shot the bird. Both happened by chance too. Sorry I'm a bit stuck on this one, can you explain why one is less ethical than the other?


As I recall reading, Bvoss was sneaking towards said bird with a fan in front of him..... how is that the same as sneaking around and getting under one in the pre-dawn?

You asked for the difference, I gave it to you with my replies.


I guess it would be comparable to opening your back door wearing pajamas and shooting a nice buck in your back yard or from a livingroom, bedroom, bathroom window. Sure it's legal, but where is the sport in it? How is that fun/sportsman like/challenging? Sure you still shoot a deer, you get meat for the table, and again legal.
Shooting a bird off the roost was definitely not the most challenging hunt and there wasn't much sport in it, but I don't see it as unethical... just a less sporting way to kill a bird. It would be pretty lame to go around shooting all your birds off the limb, but I don't feel bad that I did it just that once. Not much sport in it I agree but sport doesn't matter when you're meat hunting. Now my bird #3 was called in off private property onto WMA and #4 was snuck up on and shot from a prone position in the middle of a field. So I do hunt for sport as well. Those last 2 birds were awesome hunts. Well come to think of it I'd say all the birds I killed were awesome hunts in one way or another. Can't beat turkey hunting....
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#2825513 - 05/10/12 07:55 AM Re: Finally Got Number 4! [Re: catman529]
bvoss
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My take on it is this.

I've killed a few birds off of the limb when I started turkey hunting. The past ten years or so I have killed nearly all my birds by calling them in. I have ambushed a few, but the majority are called into the gun. I am fine with you killing them however you want as long as it is legal, but for me, I am not going to just sneak up to the roost tree and roll him out. I just enjoy the game ( the calling, gobbling, strutting, spitting, drumming)to much to end a hunt before I really get to experience it all.
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#2825917 - 05/10/12 04:16 PM Re: Finally Got Number 4! [Re: bvoss]
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Guys...do what you do and stop defending yourself!!! I dont suppose you hunt to make others happy, I don't. If you are fine with what you do, don't worry about the others. There are plenty of folks out there who think if you dont call the bird up, it is un-ethical to kill him aka bushwhack....to each their own!!!
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