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#2821532 - 05/04/12 01:36 PM Re: Hatched turkey Egg [Re: woodchuckc]
Andy S.
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 Originally Posted By: woodchuckc
Body-wise, they were about the size of doves (they were probably 5 or so days old, I would guess - they didn't look freshly hatched).
Very believable IMO. Just like the deer rut has a forecasted peak date, so does the turkeys (photoperiod). I suspect it is more localized that we may want to believe, same can be said for deer. With that being said, I personally believe a fair number of does and hens are bred well before and after this forecasted peak date. Basically, it is just like a Bell curve with 70-80% being timed about the same and 20-30% outliers that randomly fall before and after the peak, 10-15% before and 10-15% after if evenly distributed. You could have seen some of the 10-15% that were bred early, just as others could have with their observations while afield. I am not saying I believe every hen was bred that early, just that it is possible a fair number were and people are luckily crossing paths with some of those hens and poults this year.


Edited by Andy S. (05/04/12 01:48 PM)
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#2821536 - 05/04/12 01:46 PM Re: Hatched turkey Egg [Re: Andy S.]
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I call BS since there are no D
pictures or videos. \:D
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#2821592 - 05/04/12 03:42 PM Re: Hatched turkey Egg [Re: Carlos Viagra]
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I have no idea how big they were...i didn't ask, and it didn't matter. It came from one of the best turkey hunters I've ever known, and has no reason to lie about it. All he said was he saw 2 large groups of poults on the lease, with one group being right up in his lap. I'll find out...
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#2821616 - 05/04/12 04:26 PM Re: Hatched turkey Egg [Re: Bullfrog]
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He said he was guessing 1 bunch about a week old, and the other bunch a few days older. 1st bunch the size of a bob white and the other bunch a little bigger....fwiw
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#2821620 - 05/04/12 04:44 PM Re: Hatched turkey Egg [Re: Bullfrog]
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\:D


http://www.kentuckyhunting.net/forums/showthread.php?116472-Poults&p=2037176899


http://forum.gon.com/showthread.php?p=6899028


http://www.huntingnet.com/forum/turkey-hunting/363044-warm-conditions-effects.html


http://www.bullnettlenews.com/forum/yaf_postsm355867_Poults-hatching-out.aspx

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#2821653 - 05/04/12 05:46 PM Re: Hatched turkey Egg [Re: VolDoug]
Andy S.
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I had read a few of those threads you posted and even a few others on various sites that have the same claims in WV, SC and TX.
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#2821753 - 05/04/12 08:05 PM Re: Hatched turkey Egg [Re: Andy S.]
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I am going to follow my own advice and just sit this one out. It is too late in the season and I am too tired to get into a long drawn out biological discussion that highlights why poults that are size X wouldn't be present right now without some truly freakish occurrences.
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#2821787 - 05/04/12 08:48 PM Re: Hatched turkey Egg [Re: Setterman]
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If you want to explain, I am all ears, as I am sure others are too. Better yet, point me to some published biological journals/papers/opinions/books that say for certain there is no way on earth there are poults in TN before a certain date (historical data). Do I believe it is highly unlikely year in and year out, yes. Do I believe it could happen by chance, yes. I have scoured the internet and other forums looking for this evidence and have yet to find it. The only place left for me to visit is the library. Per previous posts, I gather that you and REN conducted field research on the eastern wild turkey while in college; at Auburn and MS State if I am not mistaken. Did you two author or co-author any papers/reports/studies etc? If so, any on the breeding behavior and hatch dates of the eastern? If so, I would love to read them. I am not being a horses rear, just playing devil's advocate until proven 100% wrong with well documented biological data. It will take more than one study with one set of data to convince me that there is only one narrow window in which ALL hens in TN breed. I am just not buying that at this point. Fire away, as I know it is not your nature to remain silent, especially when it comes to turkeys and turkey hunting and the passion you have for both. \:\)

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#2821867 - 05/04/12 10:30 PM Re: Hatched turkey Egg [Re: Andy S.]
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I will see what I can find from all my stuff most is just in memory now. Just for the record I never said never. I know where setter man is coming from and agree for the most part but I won't say with certainty that mother nature can't mix it up from time to time. Yes I think some or most of the claims earlier in the season may have some fabrication or confusion to them but I will not say its not possible. There are some on her that if they said it I wouldn't question it l, however with people you don't know you always have to take everything with a grain of salt.

My main point is just trying to make sure people understand that temp is not really a MAJOR factor in turkey breeding same as the moon has not significant role in deer rutting. I will say that this year I have seen some different behavior in turkeys from other years so anything is possible and I wouldnt be the first time I was wrong lol


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#2821900 - 05/05/12 03:46 AM Re: Hatched turkey Egg [Re: REN]
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Thanks REN. I agree with everything you typed. Don't worry, I get things wrong every other day it seems; my boss at work and my wife are always there to remind me too. Thanks again for your input.
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