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#2817070 - 04/27/12 09:30 PM Re: anyone got 1 tag left [Re: catman529]
4onaside
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 Originally Posted By: 4onaside
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Well that sure doesn't make em better hunters (even if they are)... it just means they are more selective \:D

I may have to change my username to Meat Hunter so people quit picking on me and my hunting methods....
They ain't pickin on you boy! lol "They" are kidding with you and there is a whole bunch of difference. And I doubt if anyone really cares how you hunt. We just appreciate the zeal you have as a young hunter for the sport. As we get older, most of us become a little more subdued in our approach,with the addition of families, careers, etc. and other life activities, other than hunting, that consume most of our time. Keep on truckin' and good luck on filling your other tag! lol
Yup I know you were kidding, but it seems there are a few who aren't. I should hopefully get to a point where I don't care what they say anymore... and stay tuned this fall for some pictures of dead hens! lol
I don't shoot hens, but it would not be rational for me to comment or care if you do, since the flocks that we are hunting are roughly 125 miles apart! Now, if you were shooting hens across the road from me, I would have a legitimate right to complain since they would be the same birds that I hunt and would effect my gobbler population in the spring.
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#2817117 - 04/27/12 11:41 PM Re: anyone got 1 tag left [Re: 4onaside]
catman529
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 Originally Posted By: 4onaside
 Originally Posted By: catman529
 Originally Posted By: 4onaside
 Originally Posted By: catman529
Well that sure doesn't make em better hunters (even if they are)... it just means they are more selective \:D

I may have to change my username to Meat Hunter so people quit picking on me and my hunting methods....
They ain't pickin on you boy! lol "They" are kidding with you and there is a whole bunch of difference. And I doubt if anyone really cares how you hunt. We just appreciate the zeal you have as a young hunter for the sport. As we get older, most of us become a little more subdued in our approach,with the addition of families, careers, etc. and other life activities, other than hunting, that consume most of our time. Keep on truckin' and good luck on filling your other tag! lol
Yup I know you were kidding, but it seems there are a few who aren't. I should hopefully get to a point where I don't care what they say anymore... and stay tuned this fall for some pictures of dead hens! lol
I don't shoot hens, but it would not be rational for me to comment or care if you do, since the flocks that we are hunting are roughly 125 miles apart! Now, if you were shooting hens across the road from me, I would have a legitimate right to complain since they would be the same birds that I hunt and would effect my gobbler population in the spring.
But would it affect them any more than killing a few does would affect the buck population?
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#2817164 - 04/28/12 06:17 AM Re: anyone got 1 tag left [Re: catman529]
4onaside
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 Originally Posted By: catman529
 Originally Posted By: 4onaside
 Originally Posted By: catman529
 Originally Posted By: 4onaside
 Originally Posted By: catman529
Well that sure doesn't make em better hunters (even if they are)... it just means they are more selective \:D

I may have to change my username to Meat Hunter so people quit picking on me and my hunting methods....
They ain't pickin on you boy! lol "They" are kidding with you and there is a whole bunch of difference. And I doubt if anyone really cares how you hunt. We just appreciate the zeal you have as a young hunter for the sport. As we get older, most of us become a little more subdued in our approach,with the addition of families, careers, etc. and other life activities, other than hunting, that consume most of our time. Keep on truckin' and good luck on filling your other tag! lol
Yup I know you were kidding, but it seems there are a few who aren't. I should hopefully get to a point where I don't care what they say anymore... and stay tuned this fall for some pictures of dead hens! lol
I don't shoot hens, but it would not be rational for me to comment or care if you do, since the flocks that we are hunting are roughly 125 miles apart! Now, if you were shooting hens across the road from me, I would have a legitimate right to complain since they would be the same birds that I hunt and would effect my gobbler population in the spring.
But would it affect them any more than killing a few does would affect the buck population?
IMO it certainly would in my home area, because it, like most in Tennessee is not overrun with turkeys unlike some of your middle Tennessee counties. There is a one turkey either sex fall season in my county, but that is more for political/social reasons than it is biological. Most west Tennessee counties do not have a fall season because killing hens IS detrimental to the overall population. Every time that you kill a hen, you are removing a potential of 20 turkeys from the population. Every time that you kill a gobbler you are removing one turkey from the population. So its a totally different scenario to talk about any similarities between hen killing and either sex deer harvests.
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#2817192 - 04/28/12 07:59 AM Re: anyone got 1 tag left [Re: 4onaside]
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Deer biology and turkey biology aren't even related. If anyone is so blood thirsty that they have to kill a hen and the state allows itgo ahead, but stop trying to justify it with ridiculous comparisons. Is the few pounds of meat you get off a scrawny hen really worth all the gobblers she might raise? Any real turkey hunter knows the answer to that question.
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#2817240 - 04/28/12 09:29 AM Re: anyone got 1 tag left [Re: RUGER]
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Buddy i have barely had a chance to hunt this year. i have all 4 of mine. just hang in there if it happens it happens if not you still did good filling 3. \:\)
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#2817378 - 04/28/12 04:24 PM Re: anyone got 1 tag left [Re: Bone Collector]
catman529
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With the number of hens there are around here, I'm fine with killing a few for the meat. It's less meat but less tough too. With breast, leg, stock, and other meat pulled off the bone after making stock, you can get a lot from a hen.

I also wonder how many hens you will save by killing a coyote or two. Other predators kill hens, and turkeys are still here, so why shouldn't I? This is middle TN where they are plentiful; I would not want to kill one in an area where turkeys are less than thriving.

But please disregard what I say - I'm not a real turkey hunter.
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#2817434 - 04/28/12 06:31 PM Re: anyone got 1 tag left [Re: catman529]
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 Originally Posted By: catman529
I also wonder how many hens you will save by killing a coyote or two.


I killed a coyote Thursday at one of my spots and kill every one I see unless there are gobbling birds close by.

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#2817437 - 04/28/12 06:37 PM Re: anyone got 1 tag left [Re: catman529]
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 Originally Posted By: catman529
Other predators kill hens, and turkeys are still here, so why shouldn't I?


Ha. You sound like a teenager justifying getting in trouble because "everybody else does it, why shouldn't I?".

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#2817449 - 04/28/12 06:50 PM Re: anyone got 1 tag left [Re: catman529]
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 Originally Posted By: catman529
I'm not a real turkey hunter.


No doubt about that. I'm still holding out hope for you, though. I'm glad to see you hunting and fishing. You are doing a good job and coming along nicely. I commend you for obeying the laws and doing things right. There are plenty of poachers out there. I just cannot fathom killing a hen or shooting a longbeard off the roost. I hope in time you will set your bar above "what is legal". However, I think the internet is creating a bunch of turkey killers instead of real turkey hunters. Nowdays folks are so concerned about getting home and posting pics they will kill a turkey anyway they can. I'm just glad I was taught better and have a group of guys to hunt with that set the bar a little higher than just killing.

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#2817625 - 04/29/12 01:20 AM Re: anyone got 1 tag left [Re: Swamphunter]
catman529
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 Originally Posted By: Swamphunter
 Originally Posted By: catman529
Other predators kill hens, and turkeys are still here, so why shouldn't I?


Ha. You sound like a teenager justifying getting in trouble because "everybody else does it, why shouldn't I?".
Except that it's not about getting in trouble, it's the food chain.

 Originally Posted By: Swamphunter
 Originally Posted By: catman529
I'm not a real turkey hunter.


No doubt about that. I'm still holding out hope for you, though. I'm glad to see you hunting and fishing. You are doing a good job and coming along nicely. I commend you for obeying the laws and doing things right. There are plenty of poachers out there. I just cannot fathom killing a hen or shooting a longbeard off the roost. I hope in time you will set your bar above "what is legal". However, I think the internet is creating a bunch of turkey killers instead of real turkey hunters. Nowdays folks are so concerned about getting home and posting pics they will kill a turkey anyway they can. I'm just glad I was taught better and have a group of guys to hunt with that set the bar a little higher than just killing.

You're forgetting I am a meat hunter. I'm not just trying to call in a longbeard to the gun, I'm trying to stock up on meat so it lasts a little while with 6 other family members eating it. Can't wait till I move out and live in a place of my own where I can keep more meat to myself. Calling a bird in may be the best way to hunt turkeys, but killing them other ways is better for getting the meat, unless you are like Setterman and have the skill to call in your limit in multiple states. You took almost 5 weeks to kill your first of the season, but it was hard earned, and you weren't trying to stock up on meat. It's a different type of turkey hunting, and I don't see what you have against meat hunting....
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