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#2758664 - 02/16/12 04:27 PM Re: deer farming vote postponed [Re: Pursuit Hunter]
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New Date for the Vote on the "Deer Farming Bill", 2/21/12.

House Agriculture Committee
Agriculture Committee

2/21/2012
Presentation from Life & Science Tennessee regarding diversified crops



1. HB3156 by *Keisling. (*SB2854 by *Yager.)
Environmental Preservation - As introduced, changes dates of harvest season for wild ginseng from August 15 through December 31 to September 1 through December 31 of each year; adjusts reporting requirement for ginseng dealers to reflect new start date of harvest season. - Amends TCA Title 62, Chapter 28, Part 1 and Title 70, Chapter 8, Part 2.
The Abstract summarizes HB3156 as introduced.


2. *HB3164 by *Niceley, *Weaver, *Faison, *Holt, *Keisling, *Forgety. (SB3399 by *Massey.)
Livestock - As introduced, authorizes breeding facilities to possess certain native species for purposes determined by and in accordance with rules promulgated by the department of agriculture. - Amends TCA Title 43; Title 44 and Title 70, Chapter 4, Part 4.
Summary for *HB3164

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#2758676 - 02/16/12 04:39 PM Re: deer farming vote postponed [Re: Beekeeper]
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Sent an email to both my local rep and senator urging them to vote no on these issues. If enough of us do, common sense will prevail.
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#2759137 - 02/17/12 05:18 AM Re: deer farming vote postponed [Re: TNGunsmoke]
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#2759599 - 02/17/12 01:58 PM Re: deer farming vote postponed [Re: Beekeeper]
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What's the Names of the Voters and how do I reach them?
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#2759602 - 02/17/12 02:00 PM Re: deer farming vote postponed [Re: ballfan]
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Committee Officers
Dale Ford, Vice-Chair http://www.capitol.tn.gov/house/members/h6.html
Curtis Halford, Secretary http://www.capitol.tn.gov/house/members/h79.html
Members
Eddie Bass http://www.capitol.tn.gov/house/members/h65.html
Sheila Butt http://www.capitol.tn.gov/house/members/h64.html
Jeremy Faison http://www.capitol.tn.gov/house/members/h11.html
John Forgety http://www.capitol.tn.gov/house/members/h23.html
Andy Holt http://www.capitol.tn.gov/house/members/h76.html
Kelly Keisling http://www.capitol.tn.gov/house/members/h38.html
Steve McDaniel http://www.capitol.tn.gov/house/members/h72.html
Bill Sanderson http://www.capitol.tn.gov/house/members/h77.html
Johnny Shaw http://www.capitol.tn.gov/house/members/h80.html
Terri Lynn Weaver http://www.capitol.tn.gov/house/members/h40.html
John Mark Windle http://www.capitol.tn.gov/house/members/h41.html
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#2759604 - 02/17/12 02:02 PM Re: deer farming vote postponed [Re: Diehard Hunter]
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Don't back down now folks....Round two is Tuesday, and we need to have our voices heard. Fill up the voicemail boxes and email inboxes. Flood them. If these legislators come in Monday and they can send an email, we have not sent enough. Fill the servers with your comments.
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#2759606 - 02/17/12 02:04 PM Re: deer farming vote postponed [Re: Diehard Hunter]
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What is wrong with having a Whitetail Deer farm? If it is wrong, than why do we already have other wildlife farms in TN? You can hunt any other species Deer, Elk, or Exotics in TN. Why not let those who wish to start a business in raising Whitetail Deer do so at their own risk? What does it do to your right to hunt?
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#2759624 - 02/17/12 02:26 PM Re: deer farming vote postponed [Re: ballfan]
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Read the numerous threads for more information, but here are a few.

1) CWD in wild white-tailed deer is DIRECTLY linked to CWD in captive heards. Where this has happened, it has had tremendous economic and ecological ramifications.

2) Allowing the ownership of a native species is one step closer to the European model of wildlife management where the landowner owns the wildlife, not the people of the state. As for your RIGHT to hunt, you lose it since the landowner will be able to raise HIS white-tailed deer as livestock. With this legislation, a landowner can put up a high fence, get a permit from the Dept. of Ag., and take possession of the deer. If you want to kill one, you will have to buy it. If you kill it without buying it, you have broken the law, and can be sued for the value of that animal. Imagine shooting that once in a lifetime trophy only to find it has escaped a deer farm and has a tattoo in it's lip to identify it. Then the owner comes along and says that deer had a price tag of $5000, $10,000 or more. This bill would classify them as livestock and you would be treated just as if you killed a farmers cow. You would have to pay the market value for that animal

3) There is no such thing as at THEIR own risk. Bringing in deer from other states increases the probability of bringing in diseases that can be spread to our native deer as well as our dairy and beef cattle. (Brucellosis and Tuberculosis).

4) We have other wildlife farms, and we have had problems with some of them...Look at the example in Claiborne county with the escaped Red deer that could not be hunted until the state could show they were abandoned because they were considered livestock. They pose a direct threat to our elk because of potential for interbreeding. I do not know if they were ever tested for disease or not, that threat may exist as well.

5) Look at the example from Missouri. The deer farmer there with a CWD positive heard has refused the buyout from the state Department of Ag. and the state wildlife agency cannot step in to get rid of the infected deer. Every day they are alive, they are spreading this disease. Their only option at this time is to kill as many deer as they can outside his farm to prevent the spread. I wonder how that affects the hunters in that area? They will not have deer to hunt next year, the year after, or the year after, etc.....The same thing has happened time and again around these captive facilities. technically, you will still have every right to hunt that you had before, there just won't be any deer to hunt. You still the the right though.

The threat of disease is so bad our state veterinarian has stopped ANY more importation of elk for the restoration program, even though they come from an area with no history of the disease.

An ounce of prevention is worth 10 tons of cure in this case.
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#2759633 - 02/17/12 02:32 PM Re: deer farming vote postponed [Re: ballfan]
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 Originally Posted By: ballfan
What is wrong with having a Whitetail Deer farm? If it is wrong, than why do we already have other wildlife farms in TN? You can hunt any other species Deer, Elk, or Exotics in TN. Why not let those who wish to start a business in raising Whitetail Deer do so at their own risk? What does it do to your right to hunt?


Let us know if you need anymore examples of why this doesn't need to happen. We will be happy to share.
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#2759999 - 02/17/12 09:24 PM Re: deer farming vote postponed [Re: doubledownranch]
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