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#2582642 - 10/24/11 11:44 PM 777 v. Blackhorn 209?
Southern Sportsman
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What is the main difference/advantage of BH 209 compared to 777? I currently shoot an Omega with 105 grains of 777 and a Barnes MZ if its relevant.
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#2582645 - 10/24/11 11:58 PM Re: 777 v. Blackhorn 209? [Re: Southern Sportsman]
knightrider
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no crud ring,very little smoke, burns very clean, can shoot a whole bottle without having to clean between shots, the last shot will load as easy as the first shot with bh209
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#2582648 - 10/25/11 12:05 AM Re: 777 v. Blackhorn 209? [Re: knightrider]
FrontierGander
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60+ shots without ever having the bore get tight. A lot less corrosive than any other sub out there, consistent velocity, each granule is consistent. No dust at the bottom of the can, so its the same grade the first scoop, to the last scoop.
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#2582727 - 10/25/11 06:06 AM Re: 777 v. Blackhorn 209? [Re: FrontierGander]
Wobblyshot1
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Registered: 10/13/10
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Bh209 has a nitrocellulose base so it can be considered a smokeless powder.

Sold in a 10 oz bottle while 777 is sold by the pound.

Takes the right 209 primer to set it off.

The guys using it seem to like it.
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#2582808 - 10/25/11 07:08 AM Re: 777 v. Blackhorn 209? [Re: Wobblyshot1]
hayman
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I switched from 777 this year to the BH 209 not as much smoke and best of all no crud ring and less cleaning while shooting.
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#2582833 - 10/25/11 07:34 AM Re: 777 v. Blackhorn 209? [Re: knightrider]
iowavf
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 Originally Posted By: knightrider
no crud ring,very little smoke, burns very clean, can shoot a whole bottle without having to clean between shots, the last shot will load as easy as the first shot with bh209
and the last shot is just as accurate as the 1st, even though people will still say to be accurate you have to run a wet patch, then dry patch between shots. I only shot 6 times Sunday trying some different sabots. 1st 3 shot group was inside the 1" square @ 100 yards, adjusted scope and the next 3 shots where still inside the 1" square and two where in the same hole. Why would you want to fool around with wet and dry patches in the field?

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#2582907 - 10/25/11 08:32 AM Re: 777 v. Blackhorn 209? [Re: iowavf]
LanceS4803
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Registered: 12/04/10
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Any major sporting good chains carry Blackhorn? (Gander, Wal-Mart, etc.) I don't recall ever seeing this on the shelves.
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#2582940 - 10/25/11 08:50 AM Re: 777 v. Blackhorn 209? [Re: LanceS4803]
cecil30-30
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I've been shooting 777 pellets ever since I started ML hunting about 6 years ago.And I've never expereienced this "crud ring" everyone talks about. Well this past spring I thought I was gonna switch to blackhorn, and switch bullets,away from the Hornady FPB to something a little more long range friendly. So I shot almost a whole bottle of blackhorn. I will say that I did like it alot..It's super clean,and hardly no smoke.I tried the Barnes bullets,and TC shockwave bullets,and tried numerous powder charges,but no matter how I tweaked the blackhorn powder,I just couldn't get it to shoot as good as 100grs of 777 and 1 hornady FPB. Heck I couldn't even get the Blackhorn to shoot the Hornady FPB good..So here I am,I'll be useing 777 for the 7th year with no crud ring.
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#2583018 - 10/25/11 09:41 AM Re: 777 v. Blackhorn 209? [Re: cecil30-30]
iowavf
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What I called a crud ring was the area where the bullet was seated it would get a little tighter and harder to push for the last couple inches. My encore shot different after the 1st shot with 777, but I had it sighted in with a dirty barrel using power belts so I could shoot 5 or 6 times without swabbing. I was shooting SST Hornady last year using blackhorn and with the sabots that came with them was lucky to get a 3 shot group in side 3". Switched to Harvester smooth sabot that ratsnakeboogy suggested and with the same bullet and 100 grains it's back to under a 1" group.
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#2584379 - 10/25/11 10:47 PM Re: 777 v. Blackhorn 209? [Re: iowavf]
tnclayboy
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I had a big problem with the bh209 ,it shot great, went hunting for the first time with it .very cold morning ,huge buck cuuuuuuboom ,hang fire ,buck stays there ,reload cuuuuuuuuuuuuuuboom another hang fire .buck runs off . I get down shoot the gun into target 3 more times hangfire every time. Never did this before the temp change, I tried diff primmers same crapp, so went back to 777 and same primers have not had anymore problems. Life lesson lerned.
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