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#2471189 - 08/07/11 02:36 PM Re: Red Deer in Claiborne County???!!! [Re: jw0312]
Columbia Scott
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I see. I'm not exactly sure I understand why it's a problem. The TWRA is re-introducing elk which once thrived here. That makes sense to me but they are also introducing fallow deer in Land Between the Lakes, a non native species. Do red deer pose a risk to elk and native species?
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#2471201 - 08/07/11 02:54 PM Re: Red Deer in Claiborne County???!!! [Re: Columbia Scott]
elauwit
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i hunt claiborne co but have never seen them . what part of the county are they in?
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#2471202 - 08/07/11 02:59 PM Re: Red Deer in Claiborne County???!!! [Re: elauwit]
knightrider
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the majority are on the edge of cedarfork and over towards round top on old kentucky road with a few being in the south eastern edge of cavesprings
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#2471225 - 08/07/11 03:13 PM Re: Red Deer in Claiborne County???!!! [Re: Columbia Scott]
BigSatt
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 Originally Posted By: Columbia Scott
I see. I'm not exactly sure I understand why it's a problem. The TWRA is re-introducing elk which once thrived here. That makes sense to me but they are also introducing fallow deer in Land Between the Lakes, a non native species. Do red deer pose a risk to elk and native species?


Land Between The Lakes is not controlled by TWRA.
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#2471389 - 08/07/11 06:15 PM Re: Red Deer in Claiborne County???!!! [Re: BigSatt]
BigGameGuy
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 Originally Posted By: BigSatt
 Originally Posted By: Columbia Scott
I see. I'm not exactly sure I understand why it's a problem. The TWRA is re-introducing elk which once thrived here. That makes sense to me but they are also introducing fallow deer in Land Between the Lakes, a non native species. Do red deer pose a risk to elk and native species?


Land Between The Lakes is not controlled by TWRA.


Nor are there fallow deer that are being introduced. From my understanding, they are remnants of a long ago failed project. I wish I could say every decision made in the past by wildlife entities were smart decisions. They were definitely well-intentioned, but unfortunately sometimes we learn from our mistakes. And no...rattlesnakes, coyotes, mountain lions, and black panthers are not part of those mistakes. ;\)
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#2471499 - 08/07/11 07:51 PM Re: Red Deer in Claiborne County???!!! [Re: knightrider]
elauwit
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 Originally Posted By: knightrider
the majority are on the edge of cedarfork and over towards round top on old kentucky road with a few being in the south eastern edge of cavesprings
thanks. that's a little north of where i'm at.
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#2471531 - 08/07/11 08:15 PM Re: Red Deer in Claiborne County???!!! [Re: BigGameGuy]
Columbia Scott
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I read today that the suspected range of the Eastern Cougar may now extend to the Eastern and Western extremes of Tennessee. I, for one, am pleased to see the return of the Roosevelt elk, the Eastern Cougar and the red wolf. The introduction of the coyote east of the Mississippi river gave me some awesome targets! I hate the things, but they provide a great deal of fun. I didn't know that the fallow deer were a failed project. When I was a child, I never saw a deer. I saw a big tom turkey on a railroad track near Memphis and it was if I'd seen a dinosaur. The Tennessee Wildlife Resources Agency has given us everything that we enjoy today. I support you!
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#2471536 - 08/07/11 08:24 PM Re: Red Deer in Claiborne County???!!! [Re: elauwit]
Good time Charlie
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They escaped ,or were let loose from a farm on Cedar Fork in Claiborne,Right beside where I work,Have not seen them lately but we counted 23 one evening out the side door of the plant.

I am quite sure they are Red Stags,Bigger then a whitetail but not near as big as an Elk.I know a guy that used to feed them and heard the whole story,The man that owns them lives up north,he paid this guy to feed them and bought the feed.
When he Quit sending funds ,well the guy had no choice.
He could not afford to feed them himself,so He cut a big hole in the fence.And the rest is history,there were more then just Red stag to.
So now we are on the verge of a bad situation,disease and damage that they do.Knightrider you are not knocking on the right doors
Farmers are learning quick how devastating these animals are
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#2471581 - 08/07/11 08:45 PM Re: Red Deer in Claiborne County???!!! [Re: Good time Charlie]
knightrider
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 Originally Posted By: Darton man
They escaped ,or were let loose from a farm on Cedar Fork in Claiborne,Right beside where I work,Have not seen them lately but we counted 23 one evening out the side door of the plant.

I am quite sure they are Red Stags,Bigger then a whitetail but not near as big as an Elk.I know a guy that used to feed them and heard the whole story,The man that owns them lives up north,he paid this guy to feed them and bought the feed.
When he Quit sending funds ,well the guy had no choice.
He could not afford to feed them himself,so He cut a big hole in the fence.And the rest is history,there were more then just Red stag to.
So now we are on the verge of a bad situation,disease and damage that they do.Knightrider you are not knocking on the right doors
Farmers are learning quick how devastating these animals are
well than help me out on the right door to knock on lol
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#2488138 - 08/20/11 07:46 PM Re: Red Deer in Claiborne County???!!! [Re: knightrider]
Doskil
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So now we are on the verge of a bad situation,disease and damage that they do


What disease?

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