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#2442203 - 07/11/11 05:20 PM Pistol suggestions
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I want a pistol that is small enough to thigh carry comfortably but still have some oomph to it. Suggestions?? Which ones and why?
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#2442205 - 07/11/11 05:22 PM Re: Pistol suggestions [Re: Bowdacious]
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Please explain thigh carry. What part of thigh carries it?
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#2442211 - 07/11/11 05:27 PM Re: Pistol suggestions [Re: bowriter]
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Inner thigh. Sorry. I want to be able to still carry when I have to do the girlie dress up thing. \:\)
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#2442213 - 07/11/11 05:30 PM Re: Pistol suggestions [Re: Bowdacious]
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I would hate to see a Lady pull a gun from there! ;\)
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#2442217 - 07/11/11 05:33 PM Re: Pistol suggestions [Re: Dodge Man]
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 Originally Posted By: Dodge Man
I would hate to see a Lady pull a gun from there! ;\)

I don't have anywhere else to put one in a dress/skirt and if I want to wear the shoes, I need to wear the dresses/skirts. \:D
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#2442226 - 07/11/11 05:44 PM Re: Pistol suggestions [Re: Bowdacious]
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Check out the Walther PPS line.
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#2442232 - 07/11/11 05:49 PM Re: Pistol suggestions [Re: Bowdacious]
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 Originally Posted By: BOWdacious
 Originally Posted By: Dodge Man
I would hate to see a Lady pull a gun from there! ;\)

I don't have anywhere else to put one in a dress/skirt and if I want to wear the shoes, I need to wear the dresses/skirts. \:D

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#2442280 - 07/11/11 06:18 PM Re: Pistol suggestions [Re: rabbit hunter]
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Ruger LCP 380 loaded with Hornady Critical Defense.

Believe it or not but that load packs the same oomph as a 38 Sepcial of 20 years ago.

If you want something a little biger then get the Ruger LC9, that's a 9mm and is a little biger than the LCP.

Here is a picture of the Ruger LC9 with a drawing of the 380 LCP so you can see the difference in size.

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#2442289 - 07/11/11 06:24 PM Re: Pistol suggestions [Re: Wildcat]
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 Originally Posted By: Wildcat
Ruger LCP 380 loaded with Hornady Critical Defense.

Believe it or not but that load packs the same oomph as a 38 Sepcial of 20 years ago.

If you want something a little biger then get the Ruger LC9, that's a 9mm and is a little biger than the LCP.

Here is a picture of the Ruger LC9 with a drawing of the 380 LCP so you can see the difference in size.



I like the LCPs. Did yours take a while to break in the trigger? Mine had a stiff trigger out of the box. 500 rounds later, it was fine, but I thoughts I was going to have to get a trigger job on it.
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#2442292 - 07/11/11 06:25 PM Re: Pistol suggestions [Re: Wildcat]
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Thanks. Those look like they might be the size I am after. The Walthers look interesting and I love the feel of my Ruger rifle so the LC's have my interest. I guess I need to go handle some and see what feels good.
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#2442296 - 07/11/11 06:26 PM Re: Pistol suggestions [Re: Poser]
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#2442299 - 07/11/11 06:27 PM Re: Pistol suggestions [Re: Poser]
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 Originally Posted By: Poser
 Originally Posted By: Wildcat
Ruger LCP 380 loaded with Hornady Critical Defense.

Believe it or not but that load packs the same oomph as a 38 Sepcial of 20 years ago.

If you want something a little biger then get the Ruger LC9, that's a 9mm and is a little biger than the LCP.

Here is a picture of the Ruger LC9 with a drawing of the 380 LCP so you can see the difference in size.



I like the LCPs. Did yours take a while to break in the trigger? Mine had a stiff trigger out of the box. 500 rounds later, it was fine, but I thoughts I was going to have to get a trigger job on it.


Mine had a 250 round break in period for smooth operation of both trigger and, well...everything else. I'm approaching 800 rounds now and it has been malfunction free since the 250ish mark. Trigger is a lot better too, yes.

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#2442301 - 07/11/11 06:30 PM Re: Pistol suggestions [Re: Trapper John]
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What type of safety is on the Ruger?
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#2442311 - 07/11/11 06:42 PM Re: Pistol suggestions [Re: Bowdacious]
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 Originally Posted By: BOWdacious
What type of safety is on the Ruger?


A stout trigger. The rest is up to you.

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#2442312 - 07/11/11 06:43 PM Re: Pistol suggestions [Re: Bowdacious]
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 Originally Posted By: BOWdacious
What type of safety is on the Ruger?


On the LCP the TRIGGER is the safety.

It is the LONG trigger pull that is the safety. When they build the LCP they made it so slim and small that they had no where to put on a safty like regular hand guns because they made a true "pocket gun" with the LCP.

Ruger has made and SOLD over 600,000 LCP's since they came out with them in 2008. They are one of the main reasons it was so hard to come across 380 ammo for over a year.

Go here and you will learn everything you ever wanted to know about the Ruger LCP and the LC9. I'm on the forums and am easy to find. ;\)

http://elsiepeaforum.com/forum/index.php?action=forum
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#2442315 - 07/11/11 06:44 PM Re: Pistol suggestions [Re: Trapper John]
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 Originally Posted By: Trapper John
 Originally Posted By: BOWdacious
What type of safety is on the Ruger?


A stout trigger. The rest is up to you.

Okay. That is the same as my Kahr. I can deal with that.
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#2442318 - 07/11/11 06:46 PM Re: Pistol suggestions [Re: Wildcat]
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 Originally Posted By: Wildcat
 Originally Posted By: BOWdacious
What type of safety is on the Ruger?


On the LCP the TRIGGER is the safety.

It is the LONG trigger pull that is the safety. When they build the LCP they made it so slim and small that they had no where to put on a safty like regular hand guns because they made a true "pocket gun" with the LCP.

Ruger has made and SOLD over 600,000 LCP's since they came out with them ion 2008. They are one of the main reasons it was so hard to come across 380 ammo for over a year.

Go here and you will learn everything you ever wanted to know about the Ruger LCP and the LC9. I'm on the forums and am easy to find. ;\)

http://elsiepeaforum.com/forum/index.php?action=forum

Thanks Widcat. I have liked the feel of every Ruger I've shot. I may need to get my hands on one and see how it feels.
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#2442320 - 07/11/11 06:49 PM Re: Pistol suggestions [Re: Bowdacious]
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What type of Kahr do you have? The Ruger LC9 is slightly bigger than the Kahr P9 and CW9.

The LCP is a pretty good copy of the Kel-Tec P-3AT.


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#2442322 - 07/11/11 06:54 PM Re: Pistol suggestions [Re: Hogbear]
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Here's a picture to give you an idea of the size and here a different one that a lot of ladies have.



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#2442332 - 07/11/11 07:01 PM Re: Pistol suggestions [Re: Hogbear]
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 Originally Posted By: Hogbear
What type of Kahr do you have? The Ruger LC9 is slightly bigger than the Kahr P9 and CW9.

The LCP is a pretty good copy of the Kel-Tec P-3AT.

I have the CW40. I really don't like the idea of going less than a 40 but for where I want to carry, I have to go smaller.
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#2442333 - 07/11/11 07:02 PM Re: Pistol suggestions [Re: Wildcat]
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My mom has the LCP and she seems happy with it. I personally like the Walther PPS and Taurus 740 Slim. I think I might pickup two LCP's later on for me and my wife.
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#2442335 - 07/11/11 07:07 PM Re: Pistol suggestions [Re: Travis E]
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My mom has the LCP and she seems happy with it. I personally like the Walther PPS and Taurus 740 Slim. I think I might pickup two LCP's later on for me and my wife.

I was after the Taurus slim when I got my Kahr. The 40 is just to much gun to put on my inner thigh and be comfy (my legs aren't anywhere near skinny).
I'll just have to go play with some Rugers, Walthers and Kel-Tecs.
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#2442357 - 07/11/11 07:27 PM Re: Pistol suggestions [Re: Bowdacious]
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i have a ruger LCP yell if you want to fire it a few times,need to shoot it some my self & need an excuse :),i carry it in my front pocket,had to switch pockets with my knife so now im having trouble finding it in a hurry
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#2442359 - 07/11/11 07:29 PM Re: Pistol suggestions [Re: mike243]
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I forgot to mention with an LCP or Walther you can do that cool James Bond style turn and shoot thing and get away with it. That was the main selling point.
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#2442368 - 07/11/11 07:31 PM Re: Pistol suggestions [Re: mike243]
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 Originally Posted By: mike243
i have a ruger LCP yell if you want to fire it a few times,need to shoot it some my self & need an excuse :),i carry it in my front pocket,had to switch pockets with my knife so now im having trouble finding it in a hurry

Thanks Mike. I may just do that. It seems that when we all pool our firearms at our BangBang parties, no one has anything smaller than a 40. \:D
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#2442381 - 07/11/11 07:45 PM Re: Pistol suggestions [Re: Trapper John]
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 Originally Posted By: Trapper John
I forgot to mention with an LCP or Walther you can do that cool James Bond style turn and shoot thing and get away with it. That was the main selling point.

I don't know about a JB turn in 3" heels. \:D It will take enough practice hiking my dress up and drawing the gun without a problem.
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#2442393 - 07/11/11 07:55 PM Re: Pistol suggestions [Re: Bowdacious]
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some of the new 22 mag ammo has balistics close to a 380 in a smaller frame.# of shots are less
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#2442399 - 07/11/11 07:58 PM Re: Pistol suggestions [Re: mike243]
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I struggled with the thought of a smaller caliber but something is better than nothing at all. \:\)
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#2442404 - 07/11/11 08:02 PM Re: Pistol suggestions [Re: Bowdacious]
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It wouldnt bother me to carry a small bore. No one wants to be shot with a 40 or a 22. Might have to squeeze off a couple extra with a small bore.
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#2442413 - 07/11/11 08:06 PM Re: Pistol suggestions [Re: lung-buster]
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keltec pf9 bout the same size of ruger but lots cheaper .
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#2442615 - 07/11/11 09:53 PM Re: Pistol suggestions [Re: utfan1]
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keltec pf9 bout the same size of ruger but lots cheaper .


And its easy to carry. I dont know about the oomph though. Aint shot nobody yet.
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#2442636 - 07/11/11 10:03 PM Re: Pistol suggestions [Re: Bowdacious]
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 Originally Posted By: BOWdacious
I want a pistol that is small enough to thigh carry comfortably but still have some oomph to it. Suggestions?? Which ones and why?


Oomp is over rated if you can't control it or hit your target.... \:\)

LCP .380 is what I would suggest.... \:\) I carry it everyday even if I have my other ones.... \:\)

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#2442750 - 07/12/11 03:39 AM Re: Pistol suggestions [Re: gator-n-buck]
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I want a pistol that is small enough to thigh carry comfortably but still have some oomph to it. Suggestions?? Which ones and why?


Oomp is over rated if you can't control it or hit your target.... \:\)

LCP .380 is what I would suggest.... \:\) I carry it everyday even if I have my other ones.... \:\)


When I say oomph, I mean stopping power. If it's just gonna slow 'em down, I might as well just carry pepper spray. \:\)
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#2442763 - 07/12/11 05:13 AM Re: Pistol suggestions [Re: Bowdacious]
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Couple questions.

1- Where in the world would you be going that required that kind of dressup and a gun? You aint going to the Downtown Hookers Ball, are you?

2-Aren't you afraid by the time you get it out, speaking of the gun, you would have already been escorted out of the place? Either that or been offered several options.
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#2442820 - 07/12/11 06:13 AM Re: Pistol suggestions [Re: bowriter]
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 Originally Posted By: bowriter
Couple questions.

1- Where in the world would you be going that required that kind of dressup and a gun? You aint going to the Downtown Hookers Ball, are you?

2-Aren't you afraid by the time you get it out, speaking of the gun, you would have already been escorted out of the place? Either that or been offered several options.


there have been several church shootings.
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#2442827 - 07/12/11 06:18 AM Re: Pistol suggestions [Re: stik]
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I also carry the Ruger LCP and I think you will like it once you get a chance to fire it a few times.And like Wildcat said with the right ammo it will have the stopping power you are looking for in a small gun.
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#2442840 - 07/12/11 06:35 AM Re: Pistol suggestions [Re: Bow Hunter]
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Dont forget about the TCP as well if you like the .380. The LCP and TCP are both great little weapons. I carry the LCP as a backup. Another idea if you like larger calibers is to look at the Bersa Mini Firestorm (13 in 9mm, 10 of the .40 or 7 in .45). Having helped a lady with her dress draw its not as hard as it might seem, or as revealing, even though in a situation of having to remove the weapon one would not worry about modesty. Make sure you get a good holster with much weapon support as this is extremely important for comfort level and not having to adjust holster.
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#2442848 - 07/12/11 06:39 AM Re: Pistol suggestions [Re: Unicam]
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For the absolute smallest in 9MM the Rohrbaugh R9 is extremely small but is also a bit pricey.
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#2442934 - 07/12/11 07:41 AM Re: Pistol suggestions [Re: Unicam]
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You don't always want the absolute smallest handgun you can get. Most women that I know who carry are extremely happy with the Kahr CM-9 handgun. It's affordable, reliable, accurate, and small. The reason that so many women that I know love it is that it is designed smaller, to fit smaller hands.
It's 4 inches high and 5 inches long.
Google Kahr CM-9 and you'll get the low-down on it pretty quickly.
I'm not sure carrying a thigh rig up the skirt is the best method of carrying any weapon other than a knife. There are other options out there, such as the SmartCarry (google it), or the purses that are designed to have a 'punch through' that your handgun resides in.
If we're talking about carrying it to church, the grocery store, shopping, etc, you will definitely want to make it a part of your wardrobe.
The professional women that I deal with that carry everyday usually wear a smart-looking jacket, and carry underneath it (google 'Cabbie clothes' for some stylish jackets that are tailored for flair at the right spots).
There are shirts and undershirts that have built in pockets for handguns.
When I did bodyguard work, ALL of my clothes (pants, shirts, jackets) had gun pockets custom sewn into them. Most of that work was high-profile (many times on TV) and I couldn't have a gun showing, so there wasn't really a lot of options as far as carrying style.
I got the most use out of the SmartCarry, but everytime I felt there was a threat, the gun was in my hand (point being that alertness is your best weapon).
The only rig I could never get used too was the ankle rig because it hindered running full out. I never tried the 'inside the thigh' rig, but I imagine that it would have the same problem.
If you do a lot of gun work, you'll find that the easiest access and fastest access point on your body under stress is what's called 'apendix carry'.
You might want to research that carry position and the carry options available for that.
The position that you carry your gun in will also be a huge determining factor as to what size and style of gun you wish to carry.
I have a KelTec P3AT, which is like the little Ruger shown here. I'm a shooter, and I do not enjoy shooting that little gun. Smaller guns means the recoil energy is absorbed by your hand, and not the mass of the gun. That's okay when your under stress and out of options, but you REALLY have to realize and understand the limitations of that size gun.

Because of a confrontation 3 years ago, I now carry the most rounds that I can squeeze into a handgun. I was carrying prepared for 1 or 2 bad guys at most, not 4.
But reality came with 4 bad guys, all with guns...
Keep that in mind when you buy a little gun with limited capacity.

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#2442977 - 07/12/11 08:32 AM Re: Pistol suggestions [Re: BlackBelt]
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I second Unicam's suggestion about the Taurus TCP. I liked it better than the LPC - better trigger and for me it is more comfortable to shoot. You can find them for $260-280.

My Walther PPS is my favorite subcompact - fantastic trigger, comfortable to shoot, and the most accurate small 9mm I have ever shot. It is bigger than the Ruger LC9, but is still quite compact and light.

With any of the small 380's, a Limbsaver sleeve on the grip will make them much more comfortable to shoot and does not add significantly to the width of the gun.

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#2443124 - 07/12/11 10:22 AM Re: Pistol suggestions [Re: BlackBelt]
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 Originally Posted By: BlackBelt
or the purses that are designed to have a 'punch through' that your handgun resides in.


that would be the first thing a thief/purse snatcher goes for. then HE has YOUR gun.
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#2443154 - 07/12/11 10:59 AM Re: Pistol suggestions [Re: Bowdacious]
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No disrespect Bow but I keep picturing a saloon girl with a derringer tucked in her garter. LOL My wife carries a Ruger LCP in .380. Not on the inner thigh but in a sob holster. I think you will be very pleased with the LCP
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#2443444 - 07/12/11 03:43 PM Re: Pistol suggestions [Re: tnfirefighter]
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No disrespect Bow but I keep picturing a saloon girl with a derringer tucked in her garter. LOL My wife carries a Ruger LCP in .380. Not on the inner thigh but in a sob holster. I think you will be very pleased with the LCP

Oh to be built like a saloon girl...:D

Seriously, I work in a warehouse and dress like a bum most of the time so I like to paint on some pretty and wear a dress and heels every now and then, especially since I lost weight. I don't like being unarmed when I am. I have looked at every way imaginable to carry while wearing a dress and the thigh is the best option for my wardrobe....unless I go back to just pants and big, baggy, frumpy shirts.
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#2443505 - 07/12/11 04:21 PM Re: Pistol suggestions [Re: Bowdacious]
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There are purses made with a holster to hold your weapon inside. You would just have to keep up with your purse at all times since your gun would be in it.
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#2443514 - 07/12/11 04:29 PM Re: Pistol suggestions [Re: Bowdacious]
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#2443526 - 07/12/11 04:34 PM Re: Pistol suggestions [Re: Grizzly Johnson]
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 Originally Posted By: Grizzly Johnson
There are purses made with a holster to hold your weapon inside. You would just have to keep up with your purse at all times since your gun would be in it.

I have seen them and had thought about getting one but I just can't get comfortable with the idea of purse carry. That is the first thing a thief will grab.
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#2443687 - 07/12/11 06:22 PM Re: Pistol suggestions [Re: Bowdacious]
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 Originally Posted By: BOWdacious

I have seen them and had thought about getting one but I just can't get comfortable with the idea of purse carry. That is the first thing a thief will grab. [/quote]
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Your awareness of your surroundings and who's around you has to go up a notch when you are purse carrying, as well as any other type of carrying a weapon.
Awareness is the one attribute that will pretty much keep you out of trouble almost all the time...and if you are aware of who is around, you probably will never have to use that gun...and you probably won't ever lose that purse, either.

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