What I don't agree with is when the harvesting of timber cost the Tax Payer more than it brings in.

http://illinois.sierraclub.org/piasapalisades/ending.htm

And what about that is any differant than anything else our government is involved with?...I would much rather the government be loosing money subsidising the loggin industry with the direct effect it has the localised economy thru the folks that ARE ACTUALLY WORKING FOR A LIVIVG then to be continualy throwing money away subsidising programs for people ARE NOT WORKING AT ALL ...

The bill itself lists Upper Bald River as a NEW wilderness area. I remember when you could drive all the way to Crowders Orchard in Citoco before they designated Slick Rock and upper Citico as wilderness areas. To my knowledge, the only trail or road that was gated was the one that runs from Farr Gap to Crowders Orchard. This was not even a forest service road but a trail that hunters had cut and widened over the years.

There was indeed road all the way to the crowder place, it was even maintained by the forest service just like the rest of the road were. And when that "NEW" wilderness area took affect, the road was immediatly cut off... ..the access road was also blocked above Charlie Mountains old home place at the sunken bridge above where pine mountain, big stack trail head out. That closed vehicle traffic into the upper citico from there.
The road was also barricaded at Beech Gap on the state line where it turned off the Cherohala, cutting off all vehicle access to the upper citico trail heads from that pont as well, and it is a boundry road that just runs long beside the wilderness area for several miles before it even enters the area.

I just wouldn't be to sure about what might be grandfathered in when it comes to wilderness designation....

The bald river gourge is 3700 acres,..The newly proposed is 5 times that big...I would be interested in just where the boundrys are being proposed.

I was at Crowders Orchard before the Forest service started maintaining that road. I believe we will have to get an actual copy of the bill before we will know exactly what is proposed but if the article that was posted is correct not much will change. If I was guessing, I would think that the boundaries of the new area would roughly match the Upper Bald River Party Dog Hunt Area.

I was Climbing the apple trees at the crowder place and throwing down apples for my grandmother to make apple butter with over 45 years ago!...

Here is an article that gives a little more detail about the area as it was being view in2004. This article just lists the proposed area at just over 9100 acers, this latest proposal is over twiced that size...

There was no link in your post.

fixed it...

http://wilderness.org/files/Economics-Plus-Wilderness-Monroe-TN.pdf