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#2414169 - 06/10/11 09:12 AM B&C Changes Its Argument on the King Buck
Dodge Man
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The controversy surrounding the potential world-record Johnny King Buck just got a lot more interesting.

After Deer & Deer Hunting broke Duncan Dobie's story about the dispute surrounding the Johnny King Buck, Boone & Crockett Club officials issued a statement saying they believed the buck was a nontypical because the buck's right "G3" was offset from the main line of the main beam.

In a statement posted today on its website, B&C now claims the right antler does not a have G3, but "an abnormal point that rises off of the G2."
Confused? You're not alone.

In an interview with D&DH this afternoon, 30-year certified B&C scorer Ron Boucher said he thinks the club is wrestling with its worst scoring problem in 35 years — and is going about it the wrong way.

"I still believe strongly in what the Boone and Crockett Club stands for, but I just believe Jack Reneau is wrong on this deer — using the words of the official measurer's manual," said Boucher.

He also had strong words for many of the individuals who have posted comments on blogs, forums and article links.

"These people claim to be experts on scoring, but they are expressing opinions without ever having held the rack and scored it themselves. They simply don't know what they're talking about," Boucher said. "The point does not come off of the G-2. You cannot determine that from a photo. You have to put your hands on the rack. It is not a common-base point. You ask any scorer who has actually put his hands on this rack, put masking tape to it and a straight edge, and 95 percent of them will tell you it passes the Figure 8 test as described in the Boone and Crockett scorer's manual ... and that it is a straight 6-by-6 typical all the way."

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#2414175 - 06/10/11 09:19 AM Re: B&C Changes Its Argument on the King Buck [Re: Dodge Man]
catman529
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It's a friggin deer rack... it's not going to be 100% perfect. It doesn't have any kickers coming out the side or bottom, and it sure looks near-perfect to me. Any way you look at it, it is a very rare deer and they are making it too complicated.

Maybe they need to start measuring racks in volume rather than inches and forget the whole typical/nontypical deal. \:\/
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#2414188 - 06/10/11 09:30 AM Re: B&C Changes Its Argument on the King Buck [Re: catman529]
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If they would let a panel score it, they would at least have a definitive answer one way or the other. In the mean time, it just smells like money and politics are running the show.....
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#2414191 - 06/10/11 09:32 AM Re: B&C Changes Its Argument on the King Buck [Re: catman529]
Jason Bagby
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Records are made to be broken.
B&C is going out of its way to debunk this theory.
Sad.
Personally, I dislike B&C for their antics since the Hanson buck.
It started out, and was for years, a reputable organization.
They need some serious house cleaning starting at the top of the chain.
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#2414209 - 06/10/11 09:48 AM Re: B&C Changes Its Argument on the King Buck [Re: Jason Bagby]
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B&C has total lost there credibility with me with this buck. Right or wrong if they keep changing there story then something is up. If a B&C scorer for 30 years says it is a legit point then at the very least it should be panel scored to say one way or the other.

Edited by Dodge Man (06/10/11 09:49 AM)
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#2414215 - 06/10/11 09:53 AM Re: B&C Changes Its Argument on the King Buck [Re: Dodge Man]
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~insert explative here~ the boone and crocket club.

Simple.
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#2414231 - 06/10/11 10:10 AM Re: B&C Changes Its Argument on the King Buck [Re: Jason Bagby]
BigSatt
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 Originally Posted By: Jason Bagby
Records are made to be broken.
B&C is going out of its way to debunk this theory.
Sad.
Personally, I dislike B&C for their antics since the Hanson buck.
It started out, and was for years, a reputable organization.
They need some serious house cleaning starting at the top of the chain.



Agreed
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#2414251 - 06/10/11 10:21 AM Re: B&C Changes Its Argument on the King Buck [Re: BigSatt]
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 Originally Posted By: BigSatt
 Originally Posted By: Jason Bagby
Records are made to be broken.
B&C is going out of its way to debunk this theory.
Sad.
Personally, I dislike B&C for their antics since the Hanson buck.
It started out, and was for years, a reputable organization.
They need some serious house cleaning starting at the top of the chain.
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Agreed

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#2414568 - 06/10/11 04:46 PM Re: B&C Changes Its Argument on the King Buck [Re: iowavf]
Dodge Man
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I thought more people would have more to say about this.
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#2414886 - 06/11/11 08:39 AM Re: B&C Changes Its Argument on the King Buck [Re: Dodge Man]
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Milo hansen must be the ceo of boone and crockett
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