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#2408353 - 06/02/11 11:11 PM Re: Religious, Bible question? [Re: Tiny]
jameseboy
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It is not what goes into your mouth but what comes out of it that condemns ye. Pretty much says it all.
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#2408407 - 06/03/11 05:41 AM Re: Religious, Bible question? [Re: jameseboy]
buckaroo
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Wine is in the Bible several times, it is also a main element in the last supper, if it is so bad seems Jesus would have used water. I am a little baffled on this also.
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#2408435 - 06/03/11 06:34 AM Re: Religious, Bible question? [Re: buckaroo]
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It is not a sin to drink but to be drunk. It is not sinful to eat but to be a glutton. Moderation is the key but too often with religious matters some people attempt to force their interpretations of the Bible onto others. Unfortunately, there are many weak minded and easily led people that fall prey to charlatan preachers and cultists as a result.
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#2408437 - 06/03/11 06:44 AM Re: Religious, Bible question? [Re: Bambi Buster]
trealtree
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 Originally Posted By: Bambi Buster
 Originally Posted By: tn308fan
Galatians 5:19-21 drunkenness is one of the works of the flesh.Paul said those that practice the works of the flesh will not inherit the Kingdom of God.


"The acts of the flesh are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery; 20 idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions 21 and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like. I warn you, as I did before, that those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of God."

Looks like most of TnDeer is gonna be out of luck.


We actually talked about this in sunday school 2 weeks ago.The key words in that verse is "Live like this" Most people know those things are sin and lots of people have done some of those things at one time or another(no man is perfect).

But as a christian we must strive not to do those things and if we cave in and happen to do one or two or all of them, we must ask for forgiveness and try to do better. What the verse is talking about is people that do these things and know better but dont ask for forgiveness and think there is nothing wrong with it. ImHo
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#2408469 - 06/03/11 07:34 AM Re: Religious, Bible question? [Re: trealtree]
archer19
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Thought I'd get more of a turnout on this one.
Keep them coming.
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#2408474 - 06/03/11 07:37 AM Re: Religious, Bible question? [Re: archer19]
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 Originally Posted By: archer19
Thought I'd get more of a turnout on this one.
Keep them coming.


So, you were baiting???

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#2408476 - 06/03/11 07:42 AM Re: Religious, Bible question? [Re: trealtree]
VolDoug
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How does one know when they are drunk?

What alcohol % does the Bible view as drunkenness?

What was the alcoholic content of the "wine" that Jesus made? Do you really believe that Jesus would have made an alcoholic beverage for a wedding feast?

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#2408514 - 06/03/11 08:25 AM Re: Religious, Bible question? [Re: VolDoug]
SuperX2
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Anybody remember that old sitcom "Roseanne?"

In one episode, "Dan" comments to one of his teenage daughters that "everybody who drinks, drinks for a reason."

When I honestly asked myself, "what are my reasons?"... I didn't like the answer. While I never had a problem with drunkenness, I still was occasionally seeking solace, rest, escape, etc. through alcohol.

The stone cold truth is, these things can only truly be found in God.

Alcohol is not forbidden in scripture, but it is certainly depicted, as is sex, as something that can easily overcome us if we fail to recognize its power to do so.

I've always appreciated the way Gen. T.J. "Stonewall" Jackson put it:
* I like liquor — its taste and its effects — and that is just the reason why I never drink it.
o As quoted in Personal Reminiscences, Anecdotes, and Letters of Gen. Robert E. Lee (1874) by John William Jones, p. 171

* I am more afraid of King Alcohol than of all the bullets of the enemy.
o As quoted in Personal Reminiscences, Anecdotes, and Letters of Gen. Robert E. Lee (1874) by John William Jones, p. 171

Grace & Peace to you, gentlemen! And thank you for the discussion - appreciated as always!

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#2408516 - 06/03/11 08:25 AM Re: Religious, Bible question? [Re: Tiny]
erikbullrider
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The bible reads wine is good for the stomach. It doesn't say anywhere that you cannot drink alchohol.
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#2408520 - 06/03/11 08:30 AM Re: Religious, Bible question? [Re: erikbullrider]
buckaroo
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All wine, espeacially before refridgerators have alcohol, I believe.
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