#2408791 - 06/03/11 01:28 PM
Re: Religious, Bible question?
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TAFKAP
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I will never believe Jesus served alcohol, and if you take the scripture back to the original language there are different words for wine (fruit juice) and wine (alchoholic), but some folks want to convince themselves that Jesus was the first bartender to justify their drinking.
I have to brush up on my ancient Greek, but here are my thoughts:
Of the denominations that anything other than teetotaling is a mortal sin, most haev a very strict interpretation of the Bible.
1) A heavenly deity created the heavens and Earth, and all the living creatures, in 7 days.
2) A guy named Moses spoke to a shrubbery undergoing spontaneous combustion, obtained water from a rock by tapping it with a wooden staff, and opened the Red Sea in time for thousands of Jews to cross, then allowed it to swallow the Egyptian pursuers.
3) A Jew named Jesus performed many miracles, such as raising the dead, healing lepers, making crippled men walk, and made blind men see.
But it's a preposterous notion that Jesus drank wine? Everything else is cut-and-dry, "The Bible said so", but they want to play semantics with the meaning of the word "wine". I guess Welch's Fruit Coctail doesn't translate as well.
Do the same people that think that "wine" doesn't really mean wine eat Kosher? That's how the Bible says to eat. Is your witness any less valid when you're standing at an all-you-can-eat catfish buffet? Or eating a plate of sausage and eggs?
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#2408828 - 06/03/11 01:56 PM
Re: Religious, Bible question?
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Boy , this religious stuff sure can get confusing, if you take the scripture as "gospel".
Glad I stayed away from this one, pretty much...lol.
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#2408834 - 06/03/11 01:58 PM
Re: Religious, Bible question?
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Boy , this religious stuff sure can get confusing, if you take the scripture as "gospel".
Glad I stayed away from this one, pretty much...lol.
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#2408842 - 06/03/11 02:05 PM
Re: Religious, Bible question?
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tn308fan
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According to Young's Analytical Concordance to the Bible(p. 1058) there are 13 different usages of the word wine(Hebrew & Greek).According to Mr.Young wine can also mean grape juice. According to Nelson's Bible Dictionary wine was sometimes served in an unfermented state,but generally it was bottled after fermentation.Another Bible dictionary I have Bible dictionary based on the Niv, says "it was a common practice during bible times to mix wine and water together",and the "bible gives more space to the danger than to the benefit of wine(p 1066).My self I don't drink at all.Whatever I do as a Christian should bring glory to God.
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#2408853 - 06/03/11 02:11 PM
Re: Religious, Bible question?
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Bottom Hunter
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Boy , this religious stuff sure can get confusing, if you take the scripture as "gospel".
Glad I stayed away from this one, pretty much...lol. Chicken
a wise man once said......"Going NOT where you can not win is not the result of being afraid, but more of being wise..."
Debating religion is like beating your heads against a wall. Both sides end up with headaches, but one side takes aspirin and the other prays about it.
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#2408881 - 06/03/11 02:46 PM
Re: Religious, Bible question?
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archer19
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Boy , this religious stuff sure can get confusing, if you take the scripture as "gospel".
Glad I stayed away from this one, pretty much...lol. Chicken a wise man once said......"Going NOT where you can not win is not the result of being afraid, but more of being wise..." Debating religion is like beating your heads against a wall. Both sides end up with headaches, but one side takes aspirin and the other prays about it.
I agree, but I started it. Still looking for the thou shalt not drink or you go to the bad place verse. Don't believe it's there, but taking in the interpretations and opinions just the same. Believe if it was as bad as some proclaim there would have been 11 commandments. Just wanting to get input and viewpoints from others and see what they take from the Bible as it is written.
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#2408884 - 06/03/11 02:50 PM
Re: Religious, Bible question?
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One thing to know: in those times up until pasteurization{sp}alcohol was a much less dangerous way for the daily intake of fluids over water etc
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#2408886 - 06/03/11 02:51 PM
Re: Religious, Bible question?
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I believe in the Lord, but sometimes I just scratch my head on understanding the Bible.
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#2408934 - 06/03/11 03:38 PM
Re: Religious, Bible question?
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I truly believe, and I mean this, when a lot of us get up there God is going to give a bunch of us a smack to the back of the head and say, "You just had to make it complicated didn't you!?"
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yep, they came for the food to his gatherings........
