#2401346 - 05/24/11 10:31 PM
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I see nothing wrong, why do some want to make an issue?
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#2401350 - 05/24/11 10:34 PM
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it's "racist". I dunno, maybe because there are a lot of racist rednecks who fly it, or because it is thrown in the same barrel with slavery, or whatever. I would fly it if people such as my northern parents wouldn't get a little offended. I love Tennessee, glad I was born and grew up in the south, and proud of it, and to me the confederate flag is about heritage, not hate. I might own one some day... it'll probably happen.
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#2401371 - 05/24/11 11:05 PM
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It is just another crutch for the PC folks to hobble around on to get the attention they feel like they deserve. No matter how much crying people do the fact of the matter is the Civil War happened, it was a huge part of American history, and whether the PC people like it or not their family was probably involved some way or another so how does that make them right to judge? To me it is an icon of the south, a south in which I proudly live and the only other flag I will observe beside the one of the Confederacy is the stars and bars of Ole Glory. Come on folks thats why its in the HISTORY books. Rant over. Movin on.
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#2401374 - 05/24/11 11:30 PM
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History is History and some people just aren't happy till they have changed averything about American History or Southern culture that they are not happy with. I love my country, I love my Freedom and it just pisses me off when ever some folk wanna go and do away with. Its time for people to stand up for whats right and not take this crap from people wanting to change stuff (history). If you dont like it, then just dont look at it or better yet, LEAVE!! Nothing about it is racist. And anyone that says it is racist is just ignorant!!!!
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#2401385 - 05/25/11 12:21 AM
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#2401395 - 05/25/11 12:44 AM
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tn308fan, thanks for sharing. I found it very informative... and shared on facebook for those confederate flag haters to see.
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#2401412 - 05/25/11 04:46 AM
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Although I went to several high schools, I have always considered the Pineville Rebels, (LA) my home school. We flew a confederate flag and our band dressed in simulated rebel uniforms.
Personally, I never felt any need to have a confederate flag at my house or on my truck or for a bedspread. I also never cared if someone else did.
Things got slow for the pc folks and they decided to go with that. Then, some folks began to feel guilty. They began to think maybe they should feel guilty. They could not recognize that rather than a symbol of a proud group of people, it was an "in your face" gesture of repression.
Horse hockey!
I still don't own one. Still regard slavery as a terrible thing. But I do recognize it for what it was, an economic factor peppered with a few people who sincerely needed killing. The keeping of and trading in, of slaves was and is reprehensible. However, that is not what the confederate flag stood for.
It is now a symbol of litigation.
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#2401433 - 05/25/11 05:41 AM
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History books never tell the kids in school that when slaves were being brought into america, It was an american flag being flown on the ships long before the 1860's. Same old thing though country that wins the war writes the history book.
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#2401442 - 05/25/11 06:06 AM
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I see nothing wrong, why do some want to make an issue? I guess you are talking about the rebel battle flag and I suppose most of those who make an issue of the flag are African-American.
To many the rebel battle flag is a revere symbol of the valor and sacrifice of their ancestors. To many African-Americans, the same flag is a symbol of segregation and white supremacy.
In reality the battle flag is a testimony to a lost cause. A cause that many of us still cling to.
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#2401474 - 05/25/11 06:56 AM
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If want to display your Southern heritage without offending others, use the 1st National Confederate Flag or the Bonnie Blue. Many people are unaware of these flags, but many Southerners know what they are.
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#2401476 - 05/25/11 07:00 AM
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I see nothing wrong, why do some want to make an issue? I guess you are talking about the rebel battle flag and I suppose most of those who make an issue of the flag are African-American. To many the rebel battle flag is a revere symbol of the valor and sacrifice of their ancestors. To many African-Americans, the same flag is a symbol of segregation and white supremacy. In reality the battle flag is a testimony to a lost cause. A cause that many of us still cling to.
A very intelligent response with which I agree. Thanks Hawk.
I had a rebel flag on my bedroom wall, as a child. I outgrew that pretty quickly. That was in the early 60s when even our courthouse had a whites only bathroom and water fountain and all blacks had to be off the streets by a certain hour at night.
The flag represents a horrible time in this country's history when we were torn apart.
In my opinion, only ONE flag should be legal to fly in this country. That is a show of unity and strength. No matter where you go or where you live in this country, you are in AMERICA. Her flag is the only one you should be wanting to raise....imo.
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#2401523 - 05/25/11 07:57 AM
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If only one flag is legal then the first amendment is for nothing. Think about that BH.
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#2401555 - 05/25/11 08:28 AM
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If only one flag is legal then the first amendment is for nothing. Think about that BH.
then no one needs to complain about any flag being flown?
Remember the pictures of the school kids flying the mexican flag a couple of years back.
a portion of this country USED to be Mexico. Just like it used to be the confederate states. Why do you think people got angry that these kids were flying the mexican flag?
do you have a problem with every person of some other heritage flying their own flag? Muslims, Germans, Japanese...and so forth?
It's sad that so many southern people care more about the past than they do about unity and the future of this country.
One flag, one nation, period.
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#2401577 - 05/25/11 08:48 AM
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If only one flag is legal then the first amendment is for nothing. Think about that BH. then no one needs to complain about any flag being flown? Remember the pictures of the school kids flying the mexican flag a couple of years back. a portion of this country USED to be Mexico. Just like it used to be the confederate states. Why do you think people got angry that these kids were flying the mexican flag? do you have a problem with every person of some other heritage flying their own flag? Muslims, Germans, Japanese...and so forth? It's sad that so many southern people care more about the past than they do about unity and the future of this country. One flag, one nation, period.
If you are talking about the school thugs, I mean kids, in California that were not just flying the Mexican flag, they lowered the American and state flags, removed the state flag, hung the Mexican flag first, (highest), then hung the American flag upside down under the Mexican flag, then yeah, I had a problem with that. If they want to just fly the Mexican flag alone, go for it, but do not fly it over the US flag and do not fly the US flag upside down.
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#2401578 - 05/25/11 08:48 AM
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One natione made up of 50 states. That's why there are state flags. A rebel flag units southeners. However I can see why some hate it so much. To be honest if I grew up with a bunch of Rednecks in white sheets chasing down people I knew or even me waving a symbol (flag, shield, or anything else)I would not hold that symbol in to high regard.
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#2401584 - 05/25/11 08:55 AM
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Got a friend that bought a 375k houseboat on Norris and the 1st thing he did when he bought it is put a big rebel flag on it, said he didnt care who he pissed off.
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#2401644 - 05/25/11 09:43 AM
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If only one flag is legal then the first amendment is for nothing. Think about that BH. then no one needs to complain about any flag being flown? Remember the pictures of the school kids flying the mexican flag a couple of years back. a portion of this country USED to be Mexico. Just like it used to be the confederate states. Why do you think people got angry that these kids were flying the mexican flag? do you have a problem with every person of some other heritage flying their own flag? Muslims, Germans, Japanese...and so forth? It's sad that so many southern people care more about the past than they do about unity and the future of this country. One flag, one nation, period. If you are talking about the school thugs, I mean kids, in California that were not just flying the Mexican flag, they lowered the American and state flags, removed the state flag, hung the Mexican flag first, (highest), then hung the American flag upside down under the Mexican flag, then yeah, I had a problem with that. If they want to just fly the Mexican flag alone, go for it, but do not fly it over the US flag and do not fly the US flag upside down.
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#2401658 - 05/25/11 10:03 AM
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I look at the flag as a matter of "regional pride." The South is not a direction, it is a place. I understand and acknowledge that some are offended by it and often times it is severely mis represented. For example, you'll often see skin head rallies where they fly the Confederate flag next a Swastika. That's just pairing together potentially offensive (to some) symbols and adding to the controversy. My grandpa may have been a bit of a racist, at least judged by the standards of today, but he sure did kill some F-n Nazis, in fact, he once told me that he wished that he had killed a few more. If he were still alive and saw some neo Nazi type waiving a Confederate flag around next to Nazi symbolism, it might not be a pleasant outcome.
So, the perception of the flag is definitely tied to the actions of some who pervert its meaning in very visible ways. On the other hand, its on the MS flag and many license plates down there.
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#2401674 - 05/25/11 10:26 AM
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If you are talking about the school thugs, I mean kids, in California that were not just flying the Mexican flag, they lowered the American and state flags, removed the state flag, hung the Mexican flag first, (highest), then hung the American flag upside down under the Mexican flag, then yeah, I had a problem with that. If they want to just fly the Mexican flag alone, go for it, but do not fly it over the US flag and do not fly the US flag upside down.
Thank you for posting what really happened westtntoms!
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#2401675 - 05/25/11 10:29 AM
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In my opinion, only ONE flag should be legal to fly in this country. That is a show of unity and strength. No matter where you go or where you live in this country, you are in AMERICA. Her flag is the only one you should be wanting to raise....imo.
Dang, I guess I'd better pull down every state, county, and church flag then.
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#2401676 - 05/25/11 10:31 AM
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This one cracks me up a little. As a Civil War buff I see things a little bit different. I find it a tad funny that a lot of the people in TN fly the CS battle flag as being proud of their "rebel ancestors" when in reality, most of the men in TN fought under the union flag.
But the other facts are even more stunning and are always ignored.
1. Most Confederate soldiers fighting under that flag, never owned a slave. They were fighting for a totally different reason(s). As it was truly dubbed, "rich man's war, poor man's fight".
2. If the blacks want to be mad or offended at somebody or something, they should be mad and offended at THEIR ancestors who sold them TO the slave traders in the first place!! They were the ones reaping the benefits by selling their own people into slavery.
3. I find the term "African American" offensive. It suggests dual citizenship and treason against the United States. I feel that if you are a citizen of the United States, that you are as one body AND SHOULD BE RECOGNIZED AS...AMERICAN.
4. Lincoln gets the credit for being the one who freed the slaves. He did no such thing. The Emancipation Proclamation only freed those slaves in the southern states. It did nothing for the ones up north.
5. And this is the big one. If ANYBODY in this country deserves an apology or retribution for what the white people done to them...it should be the native Americans that were here before anybody else was, and had their people slaughtered, their homes and land taken away, and forced to live on small reservations in "no man's land".
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#2401680 - 05/25/11 10:34 AM
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#2401685 - 05/25/11 10:37 AM
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#2401686 - 05/25/11 10:37 AM
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This one cracks me up a little. As a Civil War buff I see things a little bit different. I find it a tad funny that a lot of the people in TN fly the CS battle flag as being proud of their "rebel ancestors" when in reality, most of the men in TN fought under the union flag.
But the other facts are even more stunning and are always ignored.
1. Most Confederate soldiers fighting under that flag, never owned a slave. They were fighting for a totally different reason(s). As it was truly dubbed, "rich man's war, poor man's fight".
2. If the blacks want to be mad or offended at somebody or something, they should be mad and offended at THEIR ancestors who sold them TO the slave traders in the first place!! They were the ones reaping the benefits by selling their own people into slavery.
3. I find the term "African American" offensive. It suggests dual citizenship and treason against the United States. I feel that if you are a citizen of the United States, that you are as one body AND SHOULD BE RECOGNIZED AS...AMERICAN.
4. Lincoln gets the credit for being the one who freed the slaves. He did no such thing. The Emancipation Proclamation only freed those slaves in the southern states. It did nothing for the ones up north.
5. And this is the big one. If ANYBODY in this country deserves an apology or retribution for what the white people done to them...it should be the native Americans that were here before anybody else was, and had their people slaughtered, their homes and land taken away, and forced to live on small reservations in "no man's land".
my point has been made, "Thank You"
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#2401696 - 05/25/11 10:42 AM
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#2401727 - 05/25/11 11:01 AM
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Is that a Mason jar full of shine in the background????
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#2401757 - 05/25/11 11:19 AM
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Is that a Mason jar full of shine in the background????
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#2401770 - 05/25/11 11:24 AM
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Is that a Mason jar full of shine in the background????
Gives that coffee a little kick....
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#2401775 - 05/25/11 11:27 AM
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I was born and raised in Chapel Hill Tn,Birth Place of N.B.F. I have never owned a Confederate Flag and dout that I ever will. But if I did and I wanted to fly it wherever,at my home,on my car or wherever,I would. Call me REDNECK if you want to I'm PROUD TO BE ONE........
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#2401789 - 05/25/11 11:35 AM
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Is that a Mason jar full of shine in the background????
Looks like it's only half full to me!
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#2401831 - 05/25/11 12:32 PM
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Is that a Mason jar full of shine in the background???? Looks like it's only half full to me!
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#2401858 - 05/25/11 12:51 PM
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99% of the people who fly the Confederate flag don't know anything about the history of it. That's my biggest problem.
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This one cracks me up a little. As a Civil War buff I see things a little bit different. I find it a tad funny that a lot of the people in TN fly the CS battle flag as being proud of their "rebel ancestors" when in reality, most of the men in TN fought under the union flag.
But the other facts are even more stunning and are always ignored.
1. Most Confederate soldiers fighting under that flag, never owned a slave. They were fighting for a totally different reason(s). As it was truly dubbed, "rich man's war, poor man's fight".
2. If the blacks want to be mad or offended at somebody or something, they should be mad and offended at THEIR ancestors who sold them TO the slave traders in the first place!! They were the ones reaping the benefits by selling their own people into slavery.
3. I find the term "African American" offensive. It suggests dual citizenship and treason against the United States. I feel that if you are a citizen of the United States, that you are as one body AND SHOULD BE RECOGNIZED AS...AMERICAN.
4. Lincoln gets the credit for being the one who freed the slaves. He did no such thing. The Emancipation Proclamation only freed those slaves in the southern states. It did nothing for the ones up north.
5. And this is the big one. If ANYBODY in this country deserves an apology or retribution for what the white people done to them...it should be the native Americans that were here before anybody else was, and had their people slaughtered, their homes and land taken away, and forced to live on small reservations in "no man's land".
Post of the decade CrowT!! Well said Sir!
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#2401948 - 05/25/11 01:57 PM
Re: the "Rebel/Confederate" Flag
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Hogbear
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When I worked for my dad's concrete/gravel business in the summers in high school (late 1970's), he had a part time driver who usually drove semi's to Chicago and back and just helped my dad out when he needed an extra man. He was a black guy but he always had a huge confederate battle flag on the grill of his truck because he was proud of being from the south. He was about 6'3" and built like an oak tree and always carried a .45, so I don't anybody gave him much grief about it. His living room had a portrait of Martin Luther King on one side of his fireplace mantel and a confederate battle flag on the other side.
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#2401949 - 05/25/11 01:58 PM
Re: the "Rebel/Confederate" Flag
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Is that a Mason jar full of shine in the background???? Looks like it's only half full to me! OR is it half empty?
I'm an engineer....it's neither. The jar is twice as big as it needs to be.
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#2401974 - 05/25/11 02:17 PM
Re: the "Rebel/Confederate" Flag
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Is that a Mason jar full of shine in the background???? Looks like it's only half full to me! OR is it half empty? I'm an engineer....it's neither. The jar is twice as big as it needs to be.
Then maybe the liquid is half the volume it is supposed to be....
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#2401977 - 05/25/11 02:20 PM
Re: the "Rebel/Confederate" Flag
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TAFKAP
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I'm an engineer....it's neither. The jar is twice as big as it needs to be.
Then maybe the liquid is half the volume it is supposed to be.... [/quote]
That's a better explanation!
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#2402033 - 05/25/11 03:13 PM
Re: the "Rebel/Confederate" Flag
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This one cracks me up a little. As a Civil War buff I see things a little bit different. I find it a tad funny that a lot of the people in TN fly the CS battle flag as being proud of their "rebel ancestors" when in reality, most of the men in TN fought under the union flag.
But the other facts are even more stunning and are always ignored.
1. Most Confederate soldiers fighting under that flag, never owned a slave. They were fighting for a totally different reason(s). As it was truly dubbed, "rich man's war, poor man's fight".
2. If the blacks want to be mad or offended at somebody or something, they should be mad and offended at THEIR ancestors who sold them TO the slave traders in the first place!! They were the ones reaping the benefits by selling their own people into slavery.
3. I find the term "African American" offensive. It suggests dual citizenship and treason against the United States. I feel that if you are a citizen of the United States, that you are as one body AND SHOULD BE RECOGNIZED AS...AMERICAN.
4. Lincoln gets the credit for being the one who freed the slaves. He did no such thing. The Emancipation Proclamation only freed those slaves in the southern states. It did nothing for the ones up north.
5. And this is the big one. If ANYBODY in this country deserves an apology or retribution for what the white people done to them...it should be the native Americans that were here before anybody else was, and had their people slaughtered, their homes and land taken away, and forced to live on small reservations in "no man's land". awesome!
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#2402058 - 05/25/11 03:31 PM
Re: the "Rebel/Confederate" Flag
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Travis E
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Crow hit the nail on the head!
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