#2397275 - 05/19/11 03:34 PM
Re: 18 Valedictorians is ridiculous
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At out school the class chooses a fellow student who they want to deliver the speech and the class president and maybe a couple other officers announce the guest speekers. The top 10% of the class is asked to stand up, letter winners are also reconized and of course anyone going into any type of millitary service are reconized too.
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#2397279 - 05/19/11 03:41 PM
Re: 18 Valedictorians is ridiculous
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There are always tie breakers if they want to go there. I was Salutatorian in my class. At the time, we had some college level honors classes that counted 6 points on the GPA scale. That was the indicator to pick the Valedictorian. We were tied on that scale. They, then went to the classic 4.0 scale. We were tied again. They had to go to the actual grade score average to decide. She beat me by two tenths of a point. I am still sore over that though because I got a grade as a freshman that I did not deserve. It was a trades class, and the teacher gave grades by your class instead of how well you did. I didn't know that it would hurt me at the time. I am a super competitive person, and this is what drove me in school to do well. There was no such thing then as the no child left behind, and I have not been out that long. If there was, I might not have been as competitive.
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#2397871 - 05/20/11 09:02 AM
Re: 18 Valedictorians is ridiculous
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TAFKAP
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val·e·dic·to·ri·an "the student usually having the highest rank in a graduating class who delivers the valedictory address at the commencement exercises" http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/valedictorianI have never heard of a school having 2 Valedictorians let alone 18! It totaly takes away from the value of the title and makes it pointless for a student to do there best.
I have.....the kids had the exact same GPA. They took the same classes all four years, and nobody thought it was worth it in the end to compare final scores. The public school I was zoned for had a FUBAR way of doing it.....honors classes were on a 5-point GPA system. But to make things "fair" for the kids not in honors classes, the ranking system for the valedictorian race didn't apply the honors class points. So the kid that got straight A's and one B in honors classes, whose real GPA was something like a 4.4, factored out to be a 3.9. So the straight A kid in regular classes was Valedictorian, and the Honors kid got Saluditorian.
Valedictorian dropped out of college after the first semester and was pregnant within a year. Saludatorian is working on his PhD.
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#2397929 - 05/20/11 10:03 AM
Re: 18 Valedictorians is ridiculous
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We had 5 kids graduate as valedictorians of my high school class back in '89. All had 4.667 GPA's (took every AP/honors class and made A's in them as well as the reg classes). That was out of a graduation class of 500 kids.
All 5 deserved the title, all 5 are very successful members of society today, all 5 with degrees after college, all 5 probably in the top income tax bracket, paying more than their fair share back to society.
M'boro has got some smart kids and successful, hardworking, motivated parents... if I moved back to Tn, I'd want my kids to be in M'boro or Franklin school systems. Congrats to the kids!
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#2398019 - 05/20/11 12:03 PM
Re: 18 Valedictorians is ridiculous
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We had 5 kids graduate as valedictorians of my high school class back in '89. All had 4.667 GPA's (took every AP/honors class and made A's in them as well as the reg classes). That was out of a graduation class of 500 kids.
All 5 deserved the title, all 5 are very successful members of society today, all 5 with degrees after college, all 5 probably in the top income tax bracket, paying more than their fair share back to society.
M'boro has got some smart kids and successful, hardworking, motivated parents... if I moved back to Tn, I'd want my kids to be in M'boro or Franklin school systems. Congrats to the kids!
I agree mega. 4.0 gpa will not get you a valedictorian award in Knox County. It takes kids willing to take the AP and college prep courses to boost their GPA over 4.0. If they have 18 with max GPA then congrats to the kids and their parents.
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#2398174 - 05/20/11 04:07 PM
Re: 18 Valedictorians is ridiculous
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It is sad and ridiculous at the same time. My mother was valedictorian of her class and she had the highest grades which is what got it for her.
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#2398192 - 05/20/11 04:23 PM
Re: 18 Valedictorians is ridiculous
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May as well make every student a "valedictorian". When I graduated in '79, we only had one, and she had the highest grades. Thought that was just how it worked.
Also called the student with the second-highest grades the salutatorian. Other than those two, it was just "here's your diploma, don't let the door hit you in the butt on the way out."
That's the way we rolled in 1980 as well.
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#2398221 - 05/20/11 05:20 PM
Re: 18 Valedictorians is ridiculous
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It is part of the "everyone gets a trophy" mentality that is ruining these kids' future. Most schools now use the GPA system, like college, for the purpose of award giving and providing unneccesary recognition of students that don't really deserve recognition. Back when I was in high school, they did it off of the grades themselves--but that was 23 years ago.
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#2398677 - 05/21/11 02:00 PM
Re: 18 Valedictorians is ridiculous
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May as well make every student a "valedictorian". When I graduated in '79, we only had one, and she had the highest grades. Thought that was just how it worked.
Also called the student with the second-highest grades the salutatorian. Other than those two, it was just "here's your diploma, don't let the door hit you in the butt on the way out." That's the way we rolled in 1980 as well.
Then they had the honors diploma for the kids that bothered to take a math class all four years, 2 foreign language classes, chemistry and physics and make a 3.0 doing it.
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#2398712 - 05/21/11 03:26 PM
Re: 18 Valedictorians is ridiculous
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May as well make every student a "valedictorian". When I graduated in '79, we only had one, and she had the highest grades. Thought that was just how it worked.
Also called the student with the second-highest grades the salutatorian. Other than those two, it was just "here's your diploma, don't let the door hit you in the butt on the way out." That's the way we rolled in 1980 as well. I graduated in the 1980s too but we had two different kinds of diplomas. There was the "don't let the door hit you in the butt on the way out" diploma for the Vo-tech people, the boys that painted the tractors in Ag and chicks that smoked in the bathroom and basically for the rest of the people who wore a Journey shirt everyday. Btw, nothing wrong with that. Then they had the honors diploma for the kids that bothered to take a math class all four years, 2 foreign language classes, chemistry and physics and make a 3.0 doing it.
I reckon I got the door/butt diploma in ' 77, lol. 
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