#2390153 - 05/11/11 07:19 AM
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Yeah I feel your pain brother.
Wife is on a "nothing artifical" & low carb diet kick. She is dropping lbs and feeling MUCH better after the first week of he11 so it is working.
I have tagged along and noticed after a week of eating healthy that the stuff made in Frankenstein's lab really affects you.
For example. Coffee. Never drank coffee until last fall. Now I am hooked on it but want mocha's. (yeah I know, training wheels). If I put hershey syrup (contains high fructose corn syrup) in it, I get the shakes an hour or two later. If I put one spoon full of regular sugar and one spoonfull of baking cocoa, almost the same taste but no shakes. I can even have 2 cups with no problems.
TO get all science class on you, there are basically 2 types of carbs, simple and complex. Simple carbs will digest quickly and spike your blood sugar. Complex carbs will digest more slowly and not spike you as bad. From what I have read, spiking your blood sugar = bad. Most engineered foods are DESIGNED to give you a quick sugar shot which gives you a mild euphoria and feeling of satisfaction. Naturally your blood sugar spikes and then crashes making you hungry and crave more.
Start reading labels and you will freak out at the amount of "what the h*** is that?" stuff in your food.
Look up "low glycemic foods" and you will be amazed at how stuff like baked potatoes and white rice is almost like eating desert.
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#2390165 - 05/11/11 07:33 AM
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Looks like one of the main ingredients in Special K bars is corn syrup...not the best for fat loss. Look carefully at your yogurt label too. Plain yogurt is great, but most of the flavored ones are loaded with sugar. All this glycemic index stuff was explained in the first Zone book in 1995. Here's a quick description of their food pyramid: http://www.zonediet.com/Tools/Quick-Start-Guide
Got lots of friends who have lost lots of weight on sugarbusters. Here's their basic info: http://www.sugarbusters.com/filessb/newbietips.htm
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#2390168 - 05/11/11 07:38 AM
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Here I am setting here reading this while I'm eating 4 thick strips of bacon, 2 eggs over easy, hashbrowns, toast and jelly and a large glass of ice cold milk.
I'm now seeing TnDeer making it's start to becoming a straight vegan web site. Just think, in a couple years at the TnDeer/LBL campout we are setting around drinking b-12 water while there is tofu-soy steaks on the grill.
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#2390207 - 05/11/11 08:47 AM
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Here I am setting here reading this while I'm eating 4 thick strips of bacon, 2 eggs over easy, hashbrowns, toast and jelly and a large glass of ice cold milk.
I'm now seeing TnDeer making it's start to becoming a straight vegan web site. Just think, in a couple years at the TnDeer/LBL campout we are setting around drinking b-12 water while there is tofu-soy steaks on the grill.
NEVER!!
Don't go fooling yourself. There will always be a place in my heart (and arteries) for Smoked pork shoulders and bacon!
I just don't want a bunch of nitrates, nitrites, glycoline, and other junk in it. Just pure pork with a pile of spices and salt.
Besides. beer is natural if done right. Barley, Water,Yeast, Hops.
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#2390209 - 05/11/11 08:49 AM
Re: Are all carbs created equal ?
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I eat what I want, how I want, when I want....the key is portion sizes and exercise...plain and simple. Calories are calories, dont care where you get them, if you take in more than you burn, you gain weight. I will agree the right foods for your body are important, I like veggies, fruits, nuts, lean meats and every now and then junk food, ie mcd's, bk, pizza...my wife has been on an exercise kick for over a year, she started walking, then jogging and then 5K to 10 K and now is running half marathons. She has gone from a large woman to between thin and medium, she no weighs less than when we got married and loves her new her. I do not like diets, hate them as a matter of fact, they are bad for you. Get portion size under control and work out a little every day, it will pay huge dividends. My favorite exercise? Walking 9 or 18 holes of golf on a summer eve in 90 degree heat. You will walk about 6 miles, get to beat on something the whole way and burn calories while your at it!! It does not have to hurt to burn, just has to move!
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#2390217 - 05/11/11 08:58 AM
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Don't worry about the carbs you get from eating fruit. If it's been refined, then you should worry. Basically anything that was on earth 1000 years ago would be healthy. Except a potatoe loaded with butter.;) If you want to stay away from carbs, leave bread and white rice alone, along with any thing with high fructose corn syrup. Thats in a nut shell, theres more to it.
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#2390235 - 05/11/11 09:12 AM
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I just can't bring myself to let go of bread.
Same here! Love me some sourdough or pumpernickel.
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#2390239 - 05/11/11 09:13 AM
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I just can't bring myself to let go of bread. Same here! Love me some sourdough or pumpernickel. aw man, now I got that Barney The Dinosaur "yumm-yumm pumpernickel" song in my head
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#2390251 - 05/11/11 09:21 AM
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Is GoaT low in carbs?
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#2390275 - 05/11/11 09:45 AM
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Yeah I feel your pain brother.
Wife is on a "nothing artifical" & low carb diet kick. She is dropping lbs and feeling MUCH better after the first week of he11 so it is working.
I have tagged along and noticed after a week of eating healthy that the stuff made in Frankenstein's lab really affects you.
For example. Coffee. Never drank coffee until last fall. Now I am hooked on it but want mocha's. (yeah I know, training wheels). If I put hershey syrup (contains high fructose corn syrup) in it, I get the shakes an hour or two later. If I put one spoon full of regular sugar and one spoonfull of baking cocoa, almost the same taste but no shakes. I can even have 2 cups with no problems.
TO get all science class on you, there are basically 2 types of carbs, simple and complex. Simple carbs will digest quickly and spike your blood sugar. Complex carbs will digest more slowly and not spike you as bad. From what I have read, spiking your blood sugar = bad. Most engineered foods are DESIGNED to give you a quick sugar shot which gives you a mild euphoria and feeling of satisfaction. Naturally your blood sugar spikes and then crashes making you hungry and crave more.
Start reading labels and you will freak out at the amount of "what the h*** is that?" stuff in your food.
Look up "low glycemic foods" and you will be amazed at how stuff like baked potatoes and white rice is almost like eating desert.
The science here is correct simple carbs equals bad. A lot of people rob themselves of much needed carbs to lose weight and they will lose weight but I do not know anyone who has lost that weight and not gained it back. You need a balance of complex carbs, protein and healthy fats. You need all three.
Some examples of healthy foods containing complex carbohydrates: Spinach Whole Barley Grapefruit Turnip Greens Buckwheat Apples Lettuce Buckwheat bread Prunes Water Cress Oat bran bread Apricots, Dried Zucchini Oatmeal Pears Asparagus Oat bran cereal Plums Artichokes Museli Strawberries Okra Wild rice Oranges Cabbage Brown rice Yams Celery Multi-grain bread Carrots Cucumbers Pinto beans Potatoes Dill Pickles Yogurt, low fat Soybeans Radishes Skim milk Lentils Broccoli Navy beans Garbanzo beans Brussels Sprouts Cauliflower Kidney beans Eggplant Soy milk Lentils Onions Whole meal spelt bread Split peas
Some examples of foods containing simple carbohydrates: Simple carbohydrates are more refined, are usually found in foods with fewer nutrients, and tend to be less satisfying and more fattening.
Table sugar Corn syrup Fruit juice Candy Cake Bread made with white flour Pasta made with white flour Soda pop, such as Coke®, Pepsi®, Mountain Dew®, etc. Candy All baked goods made with white flour Most packaged cereals
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#2390278 - 05/11/11 09:49 AM
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bananas are good filler food
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#2390297 - 05/11/11 10:03 AM
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my dietician told me baked potatoes were ok and not to believe the nutra-system glycemic hype
she did say though with baked potatoes, it's the toppings that kills the deal (obviously) doesn't take a genius on that one.
she gave me a tip, try using salsa on baked potato as a topping. As for a portion size, potato no larger than your fist.
also with breakfast cereals, she told me use common sense and think "grown up cereals" NOT lucky charms or capt-n-crunch
breads, as long as it says 100% whole wheat I eat it. No white bread,hot dog buns or anykthing enriched or bleached
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#2390324 - 05/11/11 10:37 AM
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I like what fishboy is saying.
Problem is that so much of our food is mass produced, designed in labs for long shelf life, great taste, and it's addictive, and to top it off it's cheap. The food that is good for you and does not have corn syrup, artificial things, etc is more expensive and usually less appealing.
One thing that I can't get enough of is homegrown cantaloupe. Too bad that's only a mid- to late-summer thing I enjoy. No pesticides and I think they are low-glycemic.
Oh and of course most things have carbs... we need carbs in our diet, they have said that a low carb diet is actually a bad idea.
I think portion control is another thing. I'm still young and metabolize pretty much everything I eat no matter how much but if I were not like that I'd have a lot of extra pounds for sure.
It's just a part of our culture to eat at odd times (socially and midnight snacking), and eat a lot more than we need. And we also eat too much meat... we only need something like 25% of meat in our diets but I think we eat a whole lot more than that.
Right now I am trying to cut out sugar myself, not for weight, but just to try and be more healthy in general. I don't doubt it is doing something to me... why else do I still feel tired even after a very good nights sleep? I won't know what it's doing to me till I get past the terrible cravings and quit eating all high-sugar food and drinks.
For me, the 3 things that make it hardest to cut out sugar, excessive eating, etc would be -High sugar and fat foods seem to be addictive. Especially sugar (and corn syrup)... quit eating it, you get real bad cravings and find an excuse to eat more. (that's my experience) -Everyone else does it. It's hard to isolate yourself from it because it's a lifestyle for everyone around you and you are also used to it. -It's hard to cut back portions and such because your stomach has been used to holding more than it needs so you feel hungry even after having a healthy sized meal.
Also I see some talking about bread.... yeah white bread is pretty much plain starch that converts to sugar with nothing else good. We buy sprouted wheat bread that comes in the frozen food section and you can thaw and toast a slice with butter... it really is good that way. White bread also tastes good, hard to let go of, but I have been catching fish with it so there's an excuse to throw some away.
Just my two cents, hope it helps, and hope I can change my habits too before I get older which is probably when I would start to add pounds....
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#2390373 - 05/11/11 11:24 AM
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Good posts, Fishboy and Stovepipe. Lots of good info there.
Ruger, you might also try your bigger meal earlier in the day--say, for lunch--and eating a smaller meal for supper. That seems to help my wife.
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#2390380 - 05/11/11 11:39 AM
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This book is a good read, library may have it. Former head of the FDA explains how the food business and restaurant chains like Chili's are engineering foods to create cravings with not much thought to nutrition. It increases the profit of the food companies, but is making Americans obese, along with our sedentary lifestyle. Not a diet book or eating program, but it will help you understand why it's so hard to eat healthy in the U.S. these days without making some conscious decisions. My parents live out in the woods and eat mostly what they grow or catch in their ponds or shoot, but most Americans don't have that choice anymore, and the food industry, with a few exceptions, is working against healthy eating. Good short video on the Amazon page:
http://www.amazon.com/End-Overeating-Insatiable-American-Appetite/dp/1605297852
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#2390382 - 05/11/11 11:51 AM
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Hogbear, Yeah its really crazy.
Anybody think Im nuts? Wanna take a bet?
Name the ONE cereal that has no added sugar of any kind.
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#2390383 - 05/11/11 11:58 AM
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Name the ONE cereal that has no added sugar of any kind. Alpen
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#2390385 - 05/11/11 12:05 PM
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I was gonna say Cheerios.
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#2390394 - 05/11/11 12:18 PM
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i wouldnt worry about carbs so much. The easiest thing to do is figure out how many calories you burn a day. Then make sure you take in less than what you burn. The result is weight loss!
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#2390400 - 05/11/11 12:25 PM
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Lots of good info. Another thing to remember is to eat according to your day. Usually more carbs early and less later in the day. The amount you take in should be proportional to your physical activities. Just remember that everybody is different so the way one person lost a lot of weight might not work for the next.
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#2390406 - 05/11/11 12:33 PM
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Nope and nope.
Actually Im not sure about Alpen but I will bet that it has one of those hidden sugars like "Rice bran juice"
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#2390412 - 05/11/11 12:38 PM
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I will bet that it has one of those hidden sugars like "Rice bran juice" Nope again.
"Ingredients: Rolled Whole Oat Flakes, Whole Wheat, Raisins (may be coated with expeller pressed canola or sunflower oil), Whole Barley, Skim Milk Powder, Roasted Hazelnuts, Malt Extract, Sliced almonds."
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#2390454 - 05/11/11 01:24 PM
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I was gonna say Cheerios.
I still love them, plain with some milk. Except I eat the organic version from Publix which is pretty much the same without any preservative. Not a huge cereal fan anymore but sometimes a bowl of cheerios with milk is so good.
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#2390465 - 05/11/11 01:31 PM
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snacks are very important
they keep your metabolism elevated and that keeps your body operating as a calorie burning machine
lulls in activity or food intake slow metabolism down
with snacks, utilize a mid morning snack and a mid afternoon snack of about 150-200 calories each. And try either a protein or fruit snack.
I'll do a cheese stick for a 10am break, and sometimes a few sticks of peanut butter/celery.
Mid afternoon, a banana,cantelope wedge,lite syrup peach cup,fresh strawberries,-something like that
the wife has been picking a gallon of fresh strawberries every couple of days here lately at the truck patch up the road.
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#2390466 - 05/11/11 01:32 PM
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I saw the smart phone app thread and got me thinking. Y'all that are tryin to lose weight or "be healthier" check out this app for the iphone (not sure about android)...It's called "my fitness pal" helps you keep track of calories taken in and burned pretty neat. Once you start seeing just how many calories are in some of the food you eat it makes you change your tune pretty quick
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#2390467 - 05/11/11 01:34 PM
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snacks are very important
they keep your metabolism elevated and that keeps your body operating as a calorie burning machine
lulls in activity or food intake slow metabolism down
with snacks, utilize a mid morning snack and a mid afternoon snack of about 150-200 calories each. And try either a protein or fruit snack.
I'll do a cheese stick for a 10am break, and sometimes a few sticks of peanut butter/celery.
Mid afternoon, a banana,cantelope wedge,lite syrup peach cup.
Interesting, I did not know that. I guess it's the late night snacks that kill. Your metabolism is shutting down for bed by that time.
However I'd rather eat a peach then lite syrup peach cup. Just sayin.. Peaches have enough sugars on their own. And you can never, never, never go wrong with a slice of cantaloupe. They are so friggin good... and healthy. I could eat a whole one any time. That's why a good portion of my garden has cantaloupes (and honeydew) planted. Nothing better. I'll bring a pocket knife and eat one right in the garden sometimes.
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#2390469 - 05/11/11 01:36 PM
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I saw the smart phone app thread and got me thinking. Y'all that are tryin to lose weight or "be healthier" check out this app for the iphone (not sure about android)...It's called "my fitness pal" helps you keep track of calories taken in and burned pretty neat. Once you start seeing just how many calories are in some of the food you eat it makes you change your tune pretty quick I tried that app, one thing I noticed. Many of the caloric database is built on user contributions. My can of ravioli might be 200 calories different the one they want me to plug into my daily journal. It got frustrating.
I quit that app and went back to my notebook. Handwritten was actually faster. Plus by now, I know in my head the caloric values for most things I eat.
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#2390483 - 05/11/11 01:51 PM
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I saw the smart phone app thread and got me thinking. Y'all that are tryin to lose weight or "be healthier" check out this app for the iphone (not sure about android)...It's called "my fitness pal" helps you keep track of calories taken in and burned pretty neat. Once you start seeing just how many calories are in some of the food you eat it makes you change your tune pretty quick I tried that app, one thing I noticed. Many of the caloric database is built on user contributions. My can of ravioli might be 200 calories different the one they want me to plug into my daily journal. It got frustrating. I quit that app and went back to my notebook. Handwritten was actually faster. Plus by now, I know in my head the caloric values for most things I eat.
I just used it to get in the ballpark wasn't trying to dial down the exact calorie in take I had. Think the most important of this thread is that yall get your butts up and exercise
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#2390486 - 05/11/11 01:55 PM
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Think the most important of this thread is that yall get your butts up and exercise most definitely
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#2390489 - 05/11/11 02:00 PM
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And you can never, never, never go wrong with a slice of cantaloupe. They are so friggin good... and healthy. I could eat a whole one any time. That's why a good portion of my garden has cantaloupes (and honeydew) planted. Nothing better. I'll bring a pocket knife and eat one right in the garden sometimes.
Throw a big gob of cottage cheese on them too...good and good for you.
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#2390494 - 05/11/11 02:06 PM
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Everyone else does it. It's hard to isolate yourself from it because it's a lifestyle for everyone around you and you are also used to it. This is probably one of the best statements here. If you are truly serious about getting fit and eating healthy, you HAVE to make it a lifestyle (unless you are one of the few gifted by God). My wife and I catch so much he!! from our friends when we do not conform to their eating/drinking preferences at parties, BBQs, etc. Do not get me wrong, my wife and I can eat as many BBQ sandwiches and donuts as anyone on here, but we choose not to most of the time. We follow a pretty strict eating regiment between Jan-Sep, with her doing a lot better than myself (she has will power like no other). We tend to relax our eating habits Oct-Dec so we can enjoy some of the great food offered at Thanksgiving, Xmas etc. The point here is you will always have friends and family that do not understand why you are making those health conscience decisions and they will belittle you many times when you do not conform to their ways/beliefs/etc. We have just learned to deal with it and keep working to reach our own self imposed goals while not imposing our goals on others. My .02
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#2390515 - 05/11/11 02:44 PM
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Just eat less and do more.
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#2390589 - 05/11/11 04:13 PM
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You are correct Ruger, all carbs are NOT created equal, but that point has already been beat to death above.
IF I can leave off the simple carbs, I lose weight very easily. That being said, it is very important for us to eat complex carbs.
For me, portion control and no late night (simple carb) snacking is the key.
I have lost 18 pounds in the last 15 days. This has taken VERY strict control for me (I love to raid the freezer/frig at 9 or 10 pm).
Over the past two weeks my diet has been: 4 power pancakes each morning w/ Water Apple, medium size around 10 AM 5 wings, with green beans and a side salad for lunch Apple, around 4 PM as snack 5 more wings or 1/3 pound of Roast Beef (deli cut thin) and a spinach salad, green beans. Drink tons of water all day long.
Also, have done the Insanity Workout for the last two weeks as well.
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#2390631 - 05/11/11 05:13 PM
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last year i lost 30 pounds in 17 weeks by cutting back on how much i ate per meal and i walked at a brisk pace for 30 minutes in the morning and 30 in the evening. about 1.5 miles each time. instead of 2-3 plates of food i ate 1 plate. we never stopped eating what we liked, just the amount
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#2390684 - 05/11/11 06:20 PM
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here are a few things to help you along the way to losing weight.
1) All carbohydrates are made of Glucose molecules linked together. the simple vs. complex comes from how they are linked. for example, simple carbs may be a few glucose molecules in length with no cross liking making them easily digested 9thus the spike in blood sugar). Complex carbs may be longer chains with cross links or multiple chains cross-linked together. Cellulose is a complex carb that we cannot digest. those carbs that take longer to digest do not cause a spike in blood sugar.
2) Building on #1; when your blood sugar spikes, your body removes the sugar from your bloodstream and stores it as glycogen. It can be metabolized later if needed, but if you dont need it later it can be converted to fat and stored. In essence, a diet high in simple sugars will cause an increase in stored fat in your body.
3) Dont go long periods wihtout eating. Your body will go into "Starvation" mode after about 8 hours. When you do eat again, it will convert more of the carbs to fat for the next time your body might need it. So, in essence skipping meals can cause you to gain weight. Eat several small meals throughout the day rather than a few large meals many hours apart.
4) A calorie is a measure of energy. 1 gram of fat has 9 calories while 1 gram of carbohydrates stores only 4 calories. What it means is you must expend 2.25 times as much energy to burn 1 gram of fat than you do to burn 1 gram of carbohydrate. If you exercise and burn more calories than you take in, you will lose weight.
5) You still need fat in your diet, about 1 tablespoon of unsaturated fat per day.
6) Overall....Eat more smaller meals high in complex carbs and low in fat (Especially saturated fat), Dont eat and go to bed, burn more calories than you take in.Lay off the big mac value meals..Each meal has 1286 calories, That is about half what you would need in a day to maintain your current weight.
7) Oh yeah, you still need protein too, and lean red meat is the best source out there.
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#2390697 - 05/11/11 06:37 PM
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exercise 6 hours per week or more and eat 6 small meals per day.
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#2390743 - 05/11/11 07:27 PM
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I went to a diet doctor in Knoxville and got some diet pills. I still eat whatever I want but I try to cut back on the size of the portions I eat. I have also cut out about 90% of coke/pepsi and trying to just drink Sprite Zero when I do drink some kind of pop. started at 245 2 months ogo and I went today for my yearly fisical for work and Im down to 226. I also try to walk on my lunch break insted of going out to eat with everyone else. I have not walked alot in the past few weeks. If I would try harder and watch what I eat I could drop fast but the whole reading the back of boxes is just not for me
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#2390828 - 05/11/11 09:05 PM
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I will bet that it has one of those hidden sugars like "Rice bran juice" Nope again. "Ingredients: Rolled Whole Oat Flakes, Whole Wheat, Raisins (may be coated with expeller pressed canola or sunflower oil), Whole Barley, Skim Milk Powder, Roasted Hazelnuts, Malt Extract, Sliced almonds."
Malt extract is a sugar. Milk powder has several different kinds of sugars in it.(milk)
The only cereal I can find in a regular grocery store that doesn't have added sugars is Shredded wheat or Shredded wheat and bran. Of course if you have it with milk you are consuming the milk sugars but they tend to be low enough in quantity and buffered by the protein that they don't usually cause a spike.
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#2391393 - 05/12/11 02:30 PM
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You can look at me and tell I'm no expert when it comes to dieting. However, a friend who is a weight watchers instructor said alot of the breakfast/snack bars aint all that good for you. She recommended Nature Valley "OatsNHoney" bars. Its loaded with Carbs as well, so I dont really know why she says this is the best one to eat.
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#2391400 - 05/12/11 02:37 PM
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However, a friend who is a weight watchers instructor said alot of the breakfast/snack bars aint all that good for you. Very true statement.
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#2391962 - 05/13/11 08:03 AM
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here are a few things to help you along the way to losing weight.
1) All carbohydrates are made of Glucose molecules linked together. the simple vs. complex comes from how they are linked. for example, simple carbs may be a few glucose molecules in length with no cross liking making them easily digested 9thus the spike in blood sugar). Complex carbs may be longer chains with cross links or multiple chains cross-linked together. Cellulose is a complex carb that we cannot digest. those carbs that take longer to digest do not cause a spike in blood sugar.
2) Building on #1; when your blood sugar spikes, your body removes the sugar from your bloodstream and stores it as glycogen. It can be metabolized later if needed, but if you dont need it later it can be converted to fat and stored. In essence, a diet high in simple sugars will cause an increase in stored fat in your body.
3) Dont go long periods wihtout eating. Your body will go into "Starvation" mode after about 8 hours. When you do eat again, it will convert more of the carbs to fat for the next time your body might need it. So, in essence skipping meals can cause you to gain weight. Eat several small meals throughout the day rather than a few large meals many hours apart.
4) A calorie is a measure of energy. 1 gram of fat has 9 calories while 1 gram of carbohydrates stores only 4 calories. What it means is you must expend 2.25 times as much energy to burn 1 gram of fat than you do to burn 1 gram of carbohydrate. If you exercise and burn more calories than you take in, you will lose weight.
5) You still need fat in your diet, about 1 tablespoon of unsaturated fat per day.
6) Overall....Eat more smaller meals high in complex carbs and low in fat (Especially saturated fat), Dont eat and go to bed, burn more calories than you take in.Lay off the big mac value meals..Each meal has 1286 calories, That is about half what you would need in a day to maintain your current weight.
7) Oh yeah, you still need protein too, and lean red meat is the best source out there.
I agree with about everything in this post. You hit the nail on the head with simple carbohydrates causing a spike in blood sugar that signals your body to store glycogen and then later as fat.
The only thing I don't 100% agree on is meals high in complex carbs. I'd say keep the portions of carbs lower and and increase the veggies instead. My body is better with fewer carbs than more. If were more active, more carbs could work for me.
Another thing, you don't need meat at every meal. Hard to beat a bowl of brown beans...
And if anyone wants a snack while reading the forum. Buy some Ranch Dressing mix and mix it with Greek Yogurt. It's like ranch dip with protein in it. Tastes wonderful. Use it with some veggies or on a salad.
To anyone who is thinking of diet pills and so on, please be careful. Working with medications for a living has given me a lot of experience in what the risks and benefits are.
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#2391981 - 05/13/11 08:31 AM
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Picture this: You have 60,000 miles of blood vessels (gas lines). You have 100 trillion cells (engines). 90% of what you eat is digested and absorbed through the small intestine and goes into your blood stream where it's distributed to your cells (engines). At night while you are sleeping you are running on 2 clylinders. When you wake up you just started 100 trillion engines and are now running on 8 cylinders. The food you eat is used as fuel. First rule: Eat breakfast within one hour of waking up. Second Rule: If meals are greater than 4 hours apart you need to have a planned snack between those meals. It's just how the body works.
Treat your diet like a job. Eat healthy and make good choices moast of the time and cheat sometimes. I like the 90/10 rule. 90% of my week I eat really good but 10% of the week is not so good. But I always eat on schedule regardless. 6, 9, 12, 3, 6 and maybe 8 depending on how active I was and how many calories the 6:00pm meal was. TONIGHT IS THAT 10% NIGHT!!!
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#2392025 - 05/13/11 10:05 AM
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I got off the Standard American Diet (The SAD diet). I dont count calories,fat, carbs, and I don't measure portions. I just eat real food. No processed poison for me. Go to draxe.com. Its common sense eating that make sense when you think about it. Since following his eating plan(eating real food) I have lost weight and haven't been sick once.
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