#2386650 - 05/06/11 02:42 AM
Tire Question / Proablem
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Tiny
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Were can one find the date of manufactuer on tires? and Is this a coded stamp?
Reason for asking... Have a set of Cooper HT Discoveries I got almost 3 years ago,they have a little over 16K on them and have started to dry rot crack.
Took this up with PepBoys today all they can or will do is pro-rate the tires,don't care for the pro-rate deal on a replacement set for 279$.
A good bit disapointed in them but kinda expected.
Frist words out of the guy was hey you got them 3 yrs ago... ME hold it right there have a set of Mich on another truck which are older than these and they haven't cracked and the set that was on this one before these which were also Mich didn't either and were on longer than these as well.
Gonna try to get with Cooper myself and see what they say.
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#2386669 - 05/06/11 05:04 AM
Re: Tire Question / Proablem
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usanglure
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dot will be on side of tires........starts wit letters DOT.... the last four digits will tell you month/year of manufacture ie: 2407 = twenty fourth week of 2007. tires 5 years or older have no manufacture warranty left on them no matter when you bought them. Now the cracking is it on sidewalls or in between treads? Sidewall wall cracking is usually minor and from stuff people on them( tire black) and other such. In between treads can be more serious and definitely needs to be addressed? How many miles do you have on them? Pro rate the tires is the procedure even from manufacture or a tire store. Manufacture may eat install price for you although, generally about $20 each....good luck
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#2386701 - 05/06/11 06:42 AM
Re: Tire Question / Proablem
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stik
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the is a world of difference in quality between michelins and coopers.
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#2386722 - 05/06/11 07:07 AM
Re: Tire Question / Proablem
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Best set of tires I ever owned were Cooper Discoverer AT's, but this cheap set of Uniroyals migght surpass them. 76,000 miles on a set of All Terrains mounted on a 4WD and still got tread. They don't pull near as well in the mud as the Coopers though. For a non agressive all terrain tire those Coopers would flat pull. Hope you get some satisfaction Tiny. Unless it's changed Cooper is the last 100% American owned American made tire company.
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#2386825 - 05/06/11 09:05 AM
Re: Tire Question / Proablem
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the is a world of difference in quality between michelins and coopers.
I absolutely agree, Coopers are way better.
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#2386829 - 05/06/11 09:07 AM
Re: Tire Question / Proablem
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the is a world of difference in quality between michelins and coopers. I absolutely agree, Coopers are way better.
And Coopers aren't made by the Frenchies.
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#2386856 - 05/06/11 09:36 AM
Re: Tire Question / Proablem
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I had one set of Coopers and was not very impressed with them.
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#2386960 - 05/06/11 12:16 PM
Re: Tire Question / Proablem
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stik
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the is a world of difference in quality between michelins and coopers. I absolutely agree, Coopers are way better.
the set i had wasn't.
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#2386962 - 05/06/11 12:21 PM
Re: Tire Question / Proablem
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some coopers are made in china
http://www.usatoday.com/money/autos/2007-06-25-tire-recall_N.htm
wonder if the tires in question were part of a recall for (inferior rubber)
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#2386974 - 05/06/11 12:43 PM
Re: Tire Question / Proablem
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Swamphunter
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Thanks SP. I read that they were all US a few years ago. Didn't know if they were still holding out with all US production.
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#2387145 - 05/06/11 05:45 PM
Re: Tire Question / Proablem
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Tiny
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usanglure- Thanks for info.
The cracks are all the way around the in-side edge of the side walls right next to the rim and these arent the result of the Silcone based Tire Shineing products as I don't use the stuff.nor wheeel cleaners.While I do use a tire shine product it dosn't have any of the bad things like silicone that casuses cracks. I've been useing the Meguiars Gold Class Endurance for several years no other tires that is has been used has fromed the Cracks. These are close to 3 years old with a bit over 16K on them.
As the Difference Bewtween Mich an Coopers.-
Right now there is No Contest the Mich hands Down even if there made by the commie frenchies. BTW these are USA Made Coopers,no complaints however on the ride and tread ware to date.
I haven't as yet found the date code if they have one nor got with Cooper.
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#2387160 - 05/06/11 06:20 PM
Re: Tire Question / Proablem
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the Michelins will dry rot also, I put a set of the very best michelins on my X5 in March 2008, I had to replace them about 2 months ago because they had dry rotted and had numerous pin hole leaks, these tires only had 38000 miles on them
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#2387293 - 05/06/11 09:24 PM
Re: Tire Question / Proablem
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the Michelins will dry rot also, I put a set of the very best michelins on my X5 in March 2008, I had to replace them about 2 months ago because they had dry rotted and had numerous pin hole leaks, these tires only had 38000 miles on them
Yes, I had the same thing happen to a set of CrossTerrains. Worthless piece of junk tires.
Best tire I've ever had are BFGoodrich Long Trail T/A Tour tires. I have 88K miles on them and have about 3 months left at the rate I drive.
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#2387301 - 05/06/11 09:38 PM
Re: Tire Question / Proablem
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Carlos Viagra
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I've gone thru 2 sets of Dunlop Radial Rovers (had the truck for nearly 10 years now) I get about 4 years out of them with no dryrot at all.
Just checked the DOT numbers on mine and it reads- DOT PJCU 78HR
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#2387312 - 05/06/11 09:54 PM
Re: Tire Question / Proablem
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usanglure
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Hog Bear good info..... carlos look on other side of tire the last 4 of dot will only be on one side (numeric digits) Guys as a tire dealer i've sold em all over the years. Bridgestone/Firestone, Michelin, Gooodyear, Bfg(subsidary of michelin) Kelly(sub of goodyear) dayton(sub of firestone) yokahama,dunlop(sub of goodyear), general, toyo, 100's of jap, chinese, korean, german, etc. They all make low, mid, and high end tires...... Go with what you like mileage,tread, or quietness or traction or combination. I run Goodyear Duratracs great wet traction on pavement, great traction in mud, noisey (young crowd seems to like this), seems to be low on mileage so far. Michelins give you mileage generally, bfgs too. Shop get what you like and a dealer you can deal with even when there are problems..... Each individual is different small dealer or big box store. GOOD LUCK
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#2387322 - 05/06/11 10:12 PM
Re: Tire Question / Proablem
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Carlos Viagra
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Thanks- mine are 2006 models, probably have another year's worth of tread left.
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#2387542 - 05/07/11 12:21 PM
Re: Tire Question / Proablem
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Tiny
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http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tiretech/techpage.jsp?techid=11&
Thanks for the info.
While I will have to look on tthe backside again to double check things,I didn't see a number code like the frist one in the above link. I did find one like the second on the front and rear of the set in question ---
From the front of the tire small blocks- [DOT UPWS] [C5N] then a good spceing and smaller letters
Design # 9861 30831-5 R-23030 LT265/75/16 Which I assume is is the design/model code/ssn #'s and everyone should know the last one Type an Size dia./size in width/ and size rim it fits.
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#2387543 - 05/07/11 12:23 PM
Re: Tire Question / Proablem
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Tiny
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BTW sent an e-mail to Cooper late yesterday afternoon/evening don't exspect to hear from them untill some time next week.
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