#2384966 - 05/04/11 08:35 AM
Interesting perspective on Osama
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BowGuy84
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I have read the comments, jokes and speculation. I have reservations and opinions of my own. I'm pretty sure I know what this has done to the political landscape of our country (what I really care about), and I'm not sure I like it. I can smile and laugh at the play on words, and support out troops and the work they do. I am a huge supporter or our nation and a conservative, but this perspective makes one think.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/may/03/no-dignity-ground-zero-frat-boy
The life lesson it brings to mind is coaches tell us to "act like you've been there before" Greg Maddux use to say "don't give them anything to remember you by".
I think its just yet another example of how our world has become a dramatic place where everthing is instantanious and over played. This pertains to presidential speaches, citizens reactions to the media and everything in between.
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#2384974 - 05/04/11 08:40 AM
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i think dancing and partying in the streets is appropriate to celebrate the death of evil.
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#2384989 - 05/04/11 08:54 AM
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BowGuy84
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Stik, we can agree to disagree on this if need be.
I feel that our soilders didn't kill evil, they killed an evil man. There is plenty more individuals willing to take up the cause. Enciting them and providing motivation for retaliation or recruitment isn't the best idea IMO...remember how those videos of the Middle East made us feel after 9/11. Furthermore, is it the high road and "being the bigger person" I'd call it a knee jerk reaction.
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#2384999 - 05/04/11 09:01 AM
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Stik, we can agree to disagree on this if need be.
I feel that our soilders didn't kill evil, they killed an evil man. There is plenty more individuals willing to take up the cause. Enciting them and providing motivation for retaliation or recruitment isn't the best idea IMO...remember how those videos of the Middle East made us feel after 9/11. Furthermore, is it the high road and "being the bigger person" I'd call it a knee jerk reaction.
yes. we can agree to disagree and i know there are others but i still think it is cause for celebration. the shoe is on the other foot now ain't it?
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#2385046 - 05/04/11 09:37 AM
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I think its just yet another example of how our world has become a dramatic place where everthing is instantanious and over played.
AGREE!
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#2385057 - 05/04/11 09:47 AM
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BowGuy84
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Stik, we can agree to disagree on this if need be.
I feel that our soilders didn't kill evil, they killed an evil man. There is plenty more individuals willing to take up the cause. Enciting them and providing motivation for retaliation or recruitment isn't the best idea IMO...remember how those videos of the Middle East made us feel after 9/11. Furthermore, is it the high road and "being the bigger person" I'd call it a knee jerk reaction. yes. we can agree to disagree and i know there are others but i still think it is cause for celebration. the shoe is on the other foot now ain't it?
Truely it is a great development for America and the fight against terrorism that has impacted us here as well as many other nations around the globe.
I just feel as if celebration/speaches/media should be structured in a way to try and douse any uprising flames vs. fanning them...
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#2385061 - 05/04/11 09:53 AM
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I think its just yet another example of how our world has become a dramatic place where everthing is instantanious and over played. AGREE!
I agree with the above quote.
I also think the article was a muslim propaganda piece for the "peaceful"( PR firm) arm of the muslim brotherhood (Terrorists).
Hey lady, How about you and all your quiet peaceful muslims actively stand up against radical islam ? How about publicly and privately condemning islamic violence which includes revolution and murder ?
At some point in time muslims are going to have to reject any sect that uses violence, intimidation, and murder. That wasn't the point of her article. It was to criticize America for celebrating the death of a mass murderer.
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#2385067 - 05/04/11 09:59 AM
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I think its just yet another example of how our world has become a dramatic place where everthing is instantanious and over played. AGREE!
ditto
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#2385069 - 05/04/11 10:04 AM
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Sure there are good Muslims but before you side with any of them you need to understand their beliefs and then I think you will understand that they literly hate us !!! Read their Koran ! Either you are a Muslim or either you are not . It is an spiritual evil based religion !
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#2385076 - 05/04/11 10:21 AM
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I think its just yet another example of how our world has become a dramatic place where everthing is instantanious and over played. AGREE! I agree with the above quote. I also think the article was a muslim propaganda piece for the "peaceful"( PR firm) arm of the muslim brotherhood (Terrorists). Hey lady, How about you and all your quiet peaceful muslims actively stand up against radical islam ? How about publicly and privately condemning islamic violence which includes revolution and murder ? At some point in time muslims are going to have to reject any sect that uses violence, intimidation, and murder. That wasn't the point of her article. It was to criticize America for celebrating the death of a mass murderer.
Fishboy with another excellent post.
Give it a rest lady. People like you are used to a friendly crowd of America hating college kids and limousine liberals. She finally gets a taste of NORMAL America and she's whining????
Hey, ship your rear end back over to the muslim stone ages and see where that gets ya!!!!!
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#2385097 - 05/04/11 10:37 AM
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Snake, I understand what you are saying, and agree to a point.
However, like Jewdism and Catholicism, Muslims has evolved into more of a culture than a religion for a lot of followers. There are things like diet, rituals, places of meeting that while religious during their conception have taken on a cultural shade in today's practice.
There are orthodox and reformed sects of the Jewish faith just like there are conservative/radical/violent Muslim followings that deviate from the majority of Muslims' beliefs.
I do not side with Muslims, I say some make points (right or wrong), and in the land of the free, working tax paying individuals with religions other than mine deserve to be (and obviously are) heard.
Again, the point of this post is to bring out a perspective varied from perhaps the majority and question if it holds water. I don't agree with everything in the article, but I do agree with some.
I'm glad Osama is dead, I applaude and support our troops actions armed or unarmed, for the work they do, and our government (past and present) for its role in getting a terroristic leader out of the field, I question how it was handle post fact.
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#2385098 - 05/04/11 10:39 AM
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There is plenty more individuals willing to take up the cause. Enciting them and providing motivation for retaliation or recruitment isn't the best idea IMO...remember how those videos of the Middle East made us feel after 9/11.
You are very correct in the fact that there are many more individuals very ready and willing to be the next attacker of Americans. However, Americans celebrating in the streets the death of this evil man will not encite them or motivate them any further than they already are—us being Americans is enough and that has already been proven. The Muslim religion is not a religion at all, it is a set of governmental laws that seeks to eliminate any and all non-muslim believers. I'm sorry we should celebrate and show them that We Are NOT Afraid of them or their fundementally flawed "religion".
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#2385225 - 05/04/11 12:45 PM
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Long Read,but worth it!!!!!
This was written by a woman born in Egypt as a Muslim.
This is not hearsay, and it may scare the life out of you.
Make sure you read the paragraph (inred) towards the end.
Joys of Muslim Women
By Nonie Darwish
In the Muslim faith a Muslim man can marry a child as young as 1 year old and have sexual intimacy with this child, consummating the marriage by 9.
The dowry is given to the family in exchange for the woman (who becomes his slave) and for the purchase of the private parts of the woman, to use her as a toy.
Even though a woman is abused she can not obtain a divorce. To prove rape, the woman must have (4) male witnesses.
Often after a woman has been raped, she is returned to her family and the family must return the dowry. The family has the right to execute her (an honor killing) to restore the honor of the family. Husbands can beat their wives 'at will' and he does not have to say why he has beaten her.
The husband is permitted to have (4 wives) and a temporary wife for an hour (prostitute) at his discretion.
The Shariah Muslim law controls the private as well as the public life of the woman.
In the West World (America) Muslim men are starting to demand Shariah Law so the wife can not obtain a divorce and he can have full and complete control of her. It is amazing and alarming how many of our sisters and daughters attending American Universities are now marrying Muslim men and submitting themselves and their children unsuspectingly to the Shariah law.
By passing this on, enlightened American women may avoid becoming a slave under Shariah Law.
Ripping the West in Two.
Author and lecturer Nonie Darwish says the goal of radical Islamists is to impose Shariah law on the world, ripping Western law and liberty in two.
She recently authored the book, Cruel and Usual Punishment: The Terrifying Global Implications of Islamic Law.
Darwish was born in Cairo and spent her childhood in Egypt and Gaza before immigrating to America in 1978, when she was eight years old. Her father died while leading covert attacks on Israel . He was a high-ranking Egyptian military officer stationed with his family in Gaza .
When he died, he was considered a "shahid," a martyr for jihad. His posthumous status earned Nonie and her family an elevated position in Muslim society.
But Darwish developed a skeptical eye at an early age. She questioned her own Muslim culture and upbringing.. She converted to Christianity after hearing a Christian preacher on television.
In her latest book, Darwish warns about creeping sharia law - what it is, what it means, and how it is manifested in Islamic countries.
For the West, she says radical Islamists are working to impose sharia on the world. If that happens, Western civilization will be destroyed. Westerners generally assume all religions encourage a respect for the dignity of each individual. Islamic law (Sharia) teaches that non-Muslims should be subjugated or killed in this world.
Peace and prosperity for one's children is not as important as assuring that Islamic law rules everywhere in theMiddle East and eventually in the world.
While Westerners tend to think that all religions encourage some form of the golden rule, Sharia teaches two systems of ethics - one for Muslims and another for non-Muslims. Building on tribal practices of the seventh century, Sharia encourages the side of humanity that wants to take from and subjugate others..
While Westerners tend to think in terms of religious people developing a personal understanding of and relationship with God, Sharia advocates executing people who ask difficult questions that could be interpreted as criticism.
It's hard to imagine, that in this day and age, Islamic scholars agree that those who criticize Islam or choose to stop being Muslim should be executed. Sadly, while talk of an Islamic reformation is common and even assumed by many in the West, such murmurings in the Middle East are silenced through intimidation.
While Westerners are accustomed to an increase in religious tolerance over time, Darwish explains how petro dollars are being used to grow an extremely intolerant form of political Islam in her native Egypt and elsewhere.
(In twenty years there will be enough Muslim voters in the U.S. To elect the President by themselves! Rest assured they will do so... You can look at how they have taken over several towns in the USA .. DearbornMich. Is one... And there are others...)
I think everyone in the U.S. Should be required to read this, but with the ACLU, there is no way this will be widely publicized, unless each of us sends it on!
It is too bad that so many are disillusioned with life and Christianity to accept Muslims as peaceful.. some may be but they have an army that is willing to shed blood in the name of Islam.. the peaceful support the warriors with their finances and own kind of patriotism to their religion. While America is getting rid of Christianity from all public sites and erasing God from the lives of children the Muslims are planning a great jihad on America ..
This is your chance to make a difference...! Pass it on to your email list or at least those you think will listen..
Some of those I'm sending it to WILL NOT!
Put your head back under the covers so you can't see the boogie man!
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