#2310300 - 02/16/11 01:46 AM
Re: Caping vs skinning question.
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This year I took a buck that my son shot to a processor close to home. I always process my deer myself but I was giving this deer to an older lady I know. I wanted to get this deer mounted for my son so I thought I might as well have them cape it out while it was there.
I paid the extra $ 10 fee to have this buck caped out and I was expecting to get just the hide and horns with skull plate back. Well what I got was the deer head skinned down to a few inches behind the ears and cut off there. I felt that's what they would have done anyways to skin/process the deer so I didn't really see where the extra $ 10 came in to play but oh well. I won't ever do that again as I feel like I paid extra to get the same service I would have gotten for the regular processing.
Caping to me means caped all the way out over the head all the way down past the nose and mouth so that all you have is hide and horn. Either I'm wrong, I misunderstood or I paid $ 10 for nothing.
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#2310364 - 02/16/11 06:25 AM
Re: Caping vs skinning question.
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B&C you are correct. Your deer was not caped. Be sure you and the butcher are on the same page before you agree to pay extra for caping. Also, if youplan to have the head mounted, make sure he knows what he is doing. I know some taxidermists who charge extra to fix some butcher's mistake. Since tear ducts can't be completely fixed, often that gets blamed on the taxidermist when it was the person who caped it who screwed up.
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#2310382 - 02/16/11 06:34 AM
Re: Caping vs skinning question.
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So if a processor charges me a caping fee and simply takes the hide off down to the top of the neck and then cuts the head off and puts it in a garbage bag for me to take to the taxidermist, then that's just "skinning" being called "caping"...?
Maybe in his mind, caping is simply "careful" skinning...lol.
So if he is charging 15 dollars to skin the deer and charges another 10 dollars to 'cape it out", then basically he is getting an extra ten dollars...? Maybe he does a tad bit more careful skinning down around the neck and head before he cuts the head off??//
I like this guy and would hate to think that he's purposely over charging.......I'm trying to give him the benefit of the doubt and was hoping to get a better explanation of the charge from a processor that comes on here.....
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#2310387 - 02/16/11 06:36 AM
Re: Caping vs skinning question.
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Thanks B@C and bowriter.
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#2310505 - 02/16/11 07:34 AM
Re: Caping vs skinning question.
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FULLDRAWXX75
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So if a processor charges me a caping fee and simply takes the hide off down to the top of the neck and then cuts the head off and puts it in a garbage bag for me to take to the taxidermist, then that's just "skinning" being called "caping"...?
Maybe in his mind, caping is simply "careful" skinning...lol.
So if he is charging 15 dollars to skin the deer and charges another 10 dollars to 'cape it out", then basically he is getting an extra ten dollars...? Maybe he does a tad bit more careful skinning down around the neck and head before he cuts the head off??//
I like this guy and would hate to think that he's purposely over charging.......I'm trying to give him the benefit of the doubt and was hoping to get a better explanation of the charge from a processor that comes on here.....
BH,
Like I posted earlier, you can skin the neck or cape it.......when skinning you just run a cut down the front of the throat and peel, when caping (for mounting purposes) you do not make any cuts in the hide past the frt. shoulders (unless you know how and where to make the cut up the back of the neck to the horn bases)It is more time consuming to cape the neck because of this.
If you did not have the deer mounted and the guy caped the neck for you, then you paid him the extra money for nothing.
FDXX75
PS: Yes, there is more to the caping process beyond the base of the neck(entire head) but that is something that should be left to a professional or someone who has done them before. Usually the taxidermist will not do a complete head caping, just the neck.
Edited by FULLDRAWXX75 (02/16/11 07:35 AM)
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#2310513 - 02/16/11 07:41 AM
Re: Caping vs skinning question.
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Tiny
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On the processors.. All they do is basically Skin it out to as close to the base of the head.Unless they also do Taxidermy work Capeing one out is best done by your Taxidermist. Some prcessors pull the skin or hide off instead of cutting it off and or there skining method is much qiucker and will leave a skin unfit for mounting.
On the Gut or not or pay somebody esle..
Have done it all and couldn't tell a bit of difference in the taste.Had one processor prefer them brought in unfield dressed and he didn't charge extra for it unless that all one wanted done.While others have. I have also skinned out and 1/4 deer without field dressing or gutting in fact it is best to do that if one can unless they want the ribs.
Edited by Tiny (02/16/11 07:44 AM)
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#2310540 - 02/16/11 08:01 AM
Re: Caping vs skinning question.
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BW is right on.
Make sure you are on the same page with your processor (or whoever is cutting on your deer).
If someone asks me to skin their deer, I would zip it as far down the neck as I could, peel the hide and throw it in the trash. 5-10 minutes
If someone asked me to "cape" their deer since they wanted it mounted, I would stop cutting at the ribcage and carefully peel the hide off like a sweater. Work my way as far up the neck as I could, and cut the head off. Fold the hide and roll it up, put in garbage bag for freezing or delivery. Whole time being very very careful not to put any holes in the hide from the ribs forward.
Time...30-40 minutes. (Im not that good at this)
IF a Taxidermist asked me to "cape" a deer I would say... "Nuh uh...you do it and I will watch." They are going to take it all off down to the nose. Never done that and don't know how.
SO... whoever you ask to "cape" your deer, make sure you both know what you are having done, how it will be done, and how much $.
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#2396188 - 05/18/11 11:40 AM
Re: Caping vs skinning question.
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Bobbie
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As a taxidermist, I can tell you what I prefer. In a perfect world, the deer would be gutted in the field, caped out by myself and THEN sent to the processor. Most taxidermists can do this in minutes. It's worth the extra stop on your way home from hunting.
The reason why is that I can assure the hide is taken right off the deer and frozen. I have received many where the hide wasn't taken care of by the processor (not frozen immediately is the common problem). This leads to hair slippage in the fleshing and tanning process. I've also taken in many capes that had been incorrectly caped and I end up doing a lot of sewing.
If you don't know how to cape out a deer, call your taxidermist. We're MORE than happy to show you how...because a correctly caped hide leads to a happy taxidermist and in the long run a fabulous mount that'll get done quicker.
That's just me.
Edited by Bobbie (05/18/11 11:41 AM)
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#2396247 - 05/18/11 12:32 PM
Re: Caping vs skinning question.
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I would never expect my taxidermist to come outside, hang my deer up and cape it out for me, especially in the cold and maybe even at night...AND, I would never drive 30 minutes there and 30 minutes back and THEN take my deer to the processor. Oh, and along the way have it checked in as well...
welcome to the site.
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#2396256 - 05/18/11 12:39 PM
Re: Caping vs skinning question.
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true dat, mine is 2hours away-but I understand
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