#2144545 - 11/03/10 07:50 AM
Re: Big rub
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A sign post rub is typicly hit year after year by multiple deer. That tree looks just like a big rub...But if it is continued to be used this year and years to come from here on out by multiple deer then it will become what I consider a sign post rub. I also think that generaly, sign post rubs are often very visible for some distance... If it is not hit again then it will remain just a big rub....just my thought 
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#2144554 - 11/03/10 07:55 AM
Re: Big rub
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That is what I was thinking . We have a big cedar on the property that has been hit every year for the last 7 years . I call it a sign post . Thanks man !
I know you can't tell the size of a deer by the size of the rub . But , I personally think this was made by a pretty good deer by the other sign in the area.
Edited by In the Cross Hairs (11/03/10 07:56 AM)
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#2144579 - 11/03/10 08:05 AM
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#2144583 - 11/03/10 08:06 AM
Re: Big rub
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Yes hunt right there and i can guarantee you wont see squat. LOL
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#2144584 - 11/03/10 08:06 AM
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#2144585 - 11/03/10 08:07 AM
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Nice'un for sure.
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#2144595 - 11/03/10 08:13 AM
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thats a good one
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#2144596 - 11/03/10 08:14 AM
Re: Big rub
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In the Cross Hairs
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Yes hunt right there and i can guarantee you wont see squat. LOL
LOL My Son missed a big wide racked 8 pointer there saturday. But , you're right ...... I usually don't hunt rubs or scrapes. I just have a good feeling about this area. Who knows .... I might get lucky !!!! LOL
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#2146056 - 11/03/10 08:12 PM
Re: Big rub
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I know you can't tell the size of a deer by the size of the rub.
To some extent you can, at least age (not antler size). Small rubs mean nothing--old and young bucks make rubs on small-diameter trees. However, only older bucks initiate rubs on that size tree. Now once started, all bucks--young and old--will rework it (if it becomes a signpost).
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#2146244 - 11/03/10 09:20 PM
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that will be a big deer!
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#2146258 - 11/03/10 09:26 PM
Re: Big rub
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#2146278 - 11/03/10 09:37 PM
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Rubs like that tear me up!
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#2146283 - 11/03/10 09:40 PM
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spike rub
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#2146300 - 11/03/10 09:48 PM
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Its always tempting to sit on a rubs, but probably time better spent figuring out where that rubs line comes from and where its going. A isolated rub (not part of a line) is a sure bet at fruitless hours in the stand.
Rub lines are where Midwesterners and those further North have advantages during the early season since rub line there are often in place before the season opens. You have a window of the first 2-3 days of the season to catch bucks using these rub lines during daylight.
Since we don't get active rub lines this far South until sometime in October, they tend to be used nocturnally. If you are near the destination, say the bedding area, you might catch a late returner in the very early morning.
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#2146305 - 11/03/10 09:49 PM
Re: Big rub
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I'm not a biologist, but I'm going to say that rub was made by
your better than average buck. Two years ago, I found a cedar
tree with a diameter of about 10" that was rubbed from knee high
to to eye level, with nicks in the bark even higher.
Results......160" 12 point with 2 drop tines. By the way, there
was a 2" sapling about 8' away from the big rub, that was
nearly demolished.
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#2146380 - 11/03/10 10:38 PM
Re: Big rub
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I saw a rub just a little bit bigger than that a couple years ago at LBL when my dad and I were scouting out by Gatlin Point. It was half way up the trunk of a cedar. Ive gone back the last couple yeaers to the exact same tree and no rub. Thats a nice rub yall found.
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#2146413 - 11/03/10 11:05 PM
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good one
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#2146688 - 11/04/10 07:58 AM
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I would hang a stand in that tree and hunt like crazy.LOL Time spent on a deer that rubs like that is not time wasted. A rub that big gets me tore up.
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#2146753 - 11/04/10 08:39 AM
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I would hang a stand in that tree and hunt like crazy.LOL Time spent on a deer that rubs like that is not time wasted. A rub that big gets me tore up.
Time spent on a deer that made the rub, might not be wasted, but, if it is a isolated rub, you're gambling big with your hunting time.
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#2146813 - 11/04/10 09:22 AM
Re: Big rub
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I would hang a stand in that tree and hunt like crazy.LOL Time spent on a deer that rubs like that is not time wasted. A rub that big gets me tore up. Time spent on a deer that made the rub, might not be wasted, but, if it is a isolated rub, you're gambling big with your hunting time.
Maybe. Depends on the situation. A single large sign-post rub can be an indication of a deer travel route concentration point, which can be a very good place to hunt near the rut.
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#2146830 - 11/04/10 09:30 AM
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I would hang a stand in that tree and hunt like crazy.LOL Time spent on a deer that rubs like that is not time wasted. A rub that big gets me tore up. Time spent on a deer that made the rub, might not be wasted, but, if it is a isolated rub, you're gambling big with your hunting time. Maybe. Depends on the situation. A single large sign-post rub can be an indication of a deer travel route concentration point, which can be a very good place to hunt near the rut.
BSK,
You're far more knowledgable on this that I am, so I'll trust your judgment here, but I would really study the situation carefully before dedicating time to a isolated rub. A isolated big rub might be able to tell you something about deer movement within the context of the area, and that's what I generally try to consider when I see a rub like that.
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#2146907 - 11/04/10 10:15 AM
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...but I would really study the situation carefully before dedicating time to a isolated rub.
I agree. And that's why I said "Maybe." It all depends on the habitat/terrain situation whether a single sign-post rub is "meaningful" or not.
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#2147483 - 11/04/10 04:21 PM
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A sign post rub is typicly hit year after year by multiple deer. That tree looks just like a big rub...But if it is continued to be used this year and years to come from here on out by multiple deer then it will become what I consider a sign post rub. I also think that generaly, sign post rubs are often very visible for some distance... If it is not hit again then it will remain just a big rub....just my thought
I didn't read all the posts so this may have been said. I agree with the above 90%.
It may well be a signpost rub this year. It becomes a traditional rub-one that is hit year after year-and of course can be a signpost rub as well.
Let me explain: If the deer that made it, made it as a signpost for him, it is a signpost rub and may or may not freshened by that buck or other bucks throughout the season. It may not be touched next year but for one year, it was a signpost rub. It meant something and of course we have no way of knowing for sure. But for one year, it may also be nothing more than "a big rub".
Think of a sign post rub as we think of roadside signs when driving. They provide information. Some are easy to understand. Those at road or stream crossings, those marking places to scent check scrapes etc. Others just leave us baffled and adjusting our personals.
But if a rub appears there next year, you can bet on two things-it is/was a signpost rub and it is now a traditional rub. When I really worked at it, these signpost rubs were one of my greatest tools in post season scouting. In a minute I'll post a picture of a signpost rub that beat me. The deer that made it was hit by a truck the night I had to leave for another state.
A guide at Willow POint showed me a tree that he said had been rubbed every year for at least 15 years. The tree was as big around as my waist and you could see tine marks all the way around it. He said they had had stands near it for a long time but never saw anything larger than a basket 8 rub it.
Go figure
The buck that made this rub got hit by a truck the night I had to quit hunting him. They said he was "Quite Large" For some real good, factuat information on rubsm see if you can fnd a book on them by John Ozoga. It is a dandy book.
Edited by bowriter (11/04/10 04:41 PM)
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