Tndeer Logo

Page 2 of 4 <1234>
Topic Options
#2142696 - 11/02/10 08:09 AM Re: Success but sad [Re: alwaysoutdoors]
Good time Charlie
TnDeer Old Timer
12 Point


Registered: 10/08/99
Posts: 6539
Loc: Tazewell

Offline
Good post and reply BSK ,
I think that may of well been what happened to my son.

The little deer are on their own by now ,I have seen the mothers run them off first hand.
_________________________
Live every day as if it were your last






Top
#2142698 - 11/02/10 08:10 AM Re: Success but sad [Re: LA man]
Coach
16 Point


Registered: 12/02/07
Posts: 10869
Loc: Pall Mall, TN and Dexter, MI

Offline
Good post BSK...I had a similar thing happen once and it bothered my son...but, he pulled through it and hunts regularly...
_________________________
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the face." Mike Tyson

Dean Business Supply, Llc

http://www.adam4d.com




Top
#2142708 - 11/02/10 08:18 AM Re: Success but sad [Re: Good time Charlie]
BSK
Jerkasourous of the non-typical kind
Non-Typical


Registered: 03/11/99
Posts: 59548
Loc: Nashville, TN

Offline
 Originally Posted By: Darton man
Good post and reply BSK ,
I think that may of well been what happened to my son.

The little deer are on their own by now ,I have seen the mothers run them off first hand.



Most fawns were weened long ago (late July or early August). However, those fawns will stick with momma for at least a year (except for the short period she is in estrus, at which time she will temporarily chase them away). Weened fawns will continue to try to nurse for a very long time. However, this is thought to be a social behavior (display of submissiveness towards their mother) instead of an actual need/desire for milk.
_________________________
"Know where you stand, and stand there" --Jesuit Father Daniel Berrigan

"There is no reasoning someone out of a position he has not reasoned himself into." --Clive James

Top
#2142776 - 11/02/10 09:07 AM Re: Success but sad [Re: BSK]
Hillbilly Hunter
Killbilly
16 Point


Registered: 07/15/05
Posts: 16982
Loc: Branchville

Offline
 Originally Posted By: BSK
As for remorse, that's why parents should think long and hard about how old a child is and that child's maturity level before taking them hunting, especially big game hunting. Killing should NEVER be taken lightly, even killing for food. That's what separates us from other animals--we have a conscience.

Mentors should also explain to youth deer hunters that it's OK and even good to feel some sadness after having taken another living thing's life, especially something as large as a deer. The day I stop feeling some remorse after having killed is the day I give up hunting.


Exactly. I have been teaching my oldest for several years about taking an animals life. I didn't want to take her until she understood exactly that when we shoot an animal it will die and understand what dieing is. She took her first deer saturday and she told me she was glad she practiced shooting and made a good shot so the deer wouldn't suffer.
_________________________
...they never call me by my name, just Hillbilly...


Top
#2143270 - 11/02/10 02:11 PM Re: Success but sad [Re: Hillbilly Hunter]
AndyW
10 Point


Registered: 10/21/10
Posts: 3418
Loc: Allardt, TN

Offline
Sadder yet to me is the time I gut shot a buck and he left me blood for a while, then it dried up. I prayed and prayed for that deer. The thought of his belly hurting cause some idiot (me) misjudged the distance really bothered me. In fact, it still does.
_________________________
Don't mess with me. I'll run with scissors and not think twice.

Top
#2143311 - 11/02/10 02:34 PM Re: Success but sad [Re: AndyW]
TheHuntsman
Button


Registered: 10/21/10
Posts: 8
Loc: Dickson, TN

Offline
I shot a young buck at the beginning of the season and was unable to recover it. I let my anxiety take over and I took a bad shot. I tracked blood for nearly 7 hours. The thought of that deer limping around really bothered me.
Top
#2143347 - 11/02/10 03:06 PM Re: Success but sad [Re: TheHuntsman]
BSK
Jerkasourous of the non-typical kind
Non-Typical


Registered: 03/11/99
Posts: 59548
Loc: Nashville, TN

Offline
AndyW and TheHuntsman,

Been there, done that, and will never forget it. We feel terrible when, despite our best intentions, we make a poor shot. AND WE SHOULD FELL TERRIBLE. That guilt is excellent motivation towards making better shots in the future.
_________________________
"Know where you stand, and stand there" --Jesuit Father Daniel Berrigan

"There is no reasoning someone out of a position he has not reasoned himself into." --Clive James

Top
#2143370 - 11/02/10 03:18 PM Re: Success but sad [Re: BSK]
Stovepipe
18 Point


Registered: 09/21/07
Posts: 21673
Loc: N1549518,E738760

Offline


My grandfather started me out gradually. Like jamming an ice pick into some catfish heads before we fillet them.

_________________________
Westside Dream Team




Top
#2143384 - 11/02/10 03:25 PM Re: Success but sad [Re: BSK]
Kimber45
Keeper of the Classifieds
16 Point


Registered: 07/10/08
Posts: 10819
Loc: Close to Jackson, TN

Offline
 Originally Posted By: BSK
As for the milk, don't worry about it. A doe that produced a surviving fawn will still have milk in her udder into December. She is not still nursing her offspring, it just takes that long for milk production to stop. She will have milk MONTHS after her fawn(s) is weened. In a healthy deer herd, EVERY doe 2 1/2+ should still have milk through November. This would be a 100% lactation rate for 2 1/2+ year-old does--a very good thing.

As for remorse, that's why parents should think long and hard about how old a child is and that child's maturity level before taking them hunting, especially big game hunting. Killing should NEVER be taken lightly, even killing for food. That's what separates us from other animals--we have a conscience.

Mentors should also explain to youth deer hunters that it's OK and even good to feel some sadness after having taken another living thing's life, especially something as large as a deer. The day I stop feeling some remorse after having killed is the day I give up hunting.


Very well said and Very True!
_________________________
Patriotism is not short, frenzied outbursts of emotion, but the tranquil and steady dedication of a lifetime.

Top
#2143385 - 11/02/10 03:25 PM Re: Success but sad [Re: Stovepipe]
TC4ever
16 Point


Registered: 10/19/07
Posts: 14514
Loc: Va

Offline
My son wanted to help gut them at five! He was thrilled to get inside and see all of that stuff in there.
He's weird like that! Of course he is his mammas son too! \:D I guess some just see things one way and others the complete opposite.
_________________________
Hoping For Change in November 2012









Top
Page 2 of 4 <1234>


Moderator:  RUGER, Tennessee Todd, Unicam, Cuttin Caller, CBU93, stretch, Bobby G, Outdoor Lady, TurkeyBurd 
Hop to:
Top Posters
4097445
RUGER
80499
Deer Assassin
59548
BSK
55955
Crappie Luck
50717
spitndrum
Newest Members
woundedgun, nonfant, DonnnieM, 74'vette, Whackem in Walland
12104 Registered Users
Who's Online
98 registered (Buckykm1, sisko, Buzzard, old guy, FLTENNHUNTER1, riverfisher, 9 invisible) and 143 anonymous users online.
Forum Stats
12104 Members
38 Forums
115605 Topics
1408411 Posts

Max Online: 756 @ 11/20/12 09:10 AM
Moon Phase
CURRENT MOON
May
Su M Tu W Th F Sa
1 2 3 4
5 6 7 8 9 10 11
12 13 14 15 16 17 18
19 20 21 22 23 24 25
26 27 28 29 30 31
Forum Donations
The TnDeer.Com Deer Talk Forum is for Tennessee Deer Hunters by Tennessee Deer Hunters. If you enjoy using our Talk Forum and would like to contribute to help in it's up-keep. Just submit your contribution by clicking on the DONATE button below and paying with PayPal or a major credit card. Any amount is much appreciated. Thanks for your support!

TN Burn Safe

Generated in 0.011 seconds in which 0.001 seconds were spent on a total of 14 queries. Zlib compression enabled.