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#2115671 - 10/17/10 03:17 PM UFC 121 Lesnar vs. Velasquez official thread
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http://www.ufc.com/event/UFC121#/fight

Pretty good fight card!
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#2116295 - 10/17/10 08:38 PM Re: UFC 121 Lesnar vs. Velasquez official thread [Re: spitndrum]
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Velasquez should have had to fight Carwin first.
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#2116333 - 10/17/10 08:46 PM Re: UFC 121 Lesnar vs. Velasquez official thread [Re: FLIPPER]
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I hope he beats Lesnar, I'll be the 1st to say he prolly won't but I'll agree with you flip, did you know carwin has to fight big country at 125.... \:D
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#2119083 - 10/19/10 10:34 AM Re: UFC 121 Lesnar vs. Velasquez official thread [Re: spitndrum]
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I hope Lesnar gnps him into the next century. I haven't liked him after seeing his Brown Pride tatoo.
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#2119443 - 10/19/10 01:48 PM Re: UFC 121 Lesnar vs. Velasquez official thread [Re: JeepKuntry]
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Lesnar will be about 280 on the night of the fight. Cain will weigh about 240 tops. Cain has more MMA experience but has not fought the level of competition that Lesnar has.

I honestly feel that Lesnar will open up on him early and knock him out or get a ref stoppage.
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#2119514 - 10/19/10 02:34 PM Re: UFC 121 Lesnar vs. Velasquez official thread [Re: Kirk]
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it is a good fight card...280? for lesnar I thought he fought around 265. Lesnar should win hands down
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#2119534 - 10/19/10 02:50 PM Re: UFC 121 Lesnar vs. Velasquez official thread [Re: bowtch huntr209]
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He cuts weight to make 265 weight limit. His normal walkng around weight is 285-290.
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#2119861 - 10/19/10 07:20 PM Re: UFC 121 Lesnar vs. Velasquez official thread [Re: Kirk]
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Lesnar has cut out all the "junk" from his diet and is walking around right now at 265. He won't have to cut to make weight. This just makes for a much faster Brock Lesnar.

I could not stand him until the Carwin fight but he gets big props from me for going through that arse whooping and coming back with a submission victory.

Brock is THE MAN.
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#2120008 - 10/19/10 08:18 PM Re: UFC 121 Lesnar vs. Velasquez official thread [Re: J.M.A.N.]
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Have you seen Lesnar with the beard? He looks scarier now if thats possible. His beard alone could choke this other dude out.
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#2125074 - 10/22/10 06:48 PM Re: UFC 121 Lesnar vs. Velasquez official thread [Re: Team Browning]
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I guess we are going to get this one. I was not planing on it but the wife wants to so I guess we will get it! lol
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#2125741 - 10/23/10 10:31 AM Re: UFC 121 Lesnar vs. Velasquez official thread [Re: Dodge Man]
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I can't wait, I want to think that Cain CAN win but IDK, as Doe Destruction said if it lasts up into the 2nd and 3rd rounds Cadio might be the deciding factors?
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#2125782 - 10/23/10 10:54 AM Re: UFC 121 Lesnar vs. Velasquez official thread [Re: spitndrum]
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Ah, yet another weekend full of UFC. Man, I'm pumped for this tonight, only a matter of time before Brock becomes 6-1.
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#2125910 - 10/23/10 01:10 PM Re: UFC 121 Lesnar vs. Velasquez official thread [Re: Dodge Man]
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Lesnar looks really good this time.

If Cain was to beat him, it would be from the opening round punches. If Brock weathers that storm and he gets ahold of Cain it will be a bad night for Cain.

Brock has been working on alot of different chokes, so plan on Lesnar getting the fight to the ground and not letting Cain swing on him.
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#2126381 - 10/23/10 08:20 PM Re: UFC 121 Lesnar vs. Velasquez official thread [Re: ShaneHallum]
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Lesnar is going down tonight.
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#2126711 - 10/23/10 11:32 PM Re: UFC 121 Lesnar vs. Velasquez official thread [Re: Jon]
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DAAAAAAAAAAAAANG..........LESNER TOOK AN ARSE KICKING
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#2126715 - 10/23/10 11:41 PM Re: UFC 121 Lesnar vs. Velasquez official thread [Re: Kirk]
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D--n i hate that- now a Mexican heavyweight champion.
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#2126716 - 10/23/10 11:48 PM Re: UFC 121 Lesnar vs. Velasquez official thread [Re: HuntingandHarleys]
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#2126717 - 10/23/10 11:51 PM Re: UFC 121 Lesnar vs. Velasquez official thread [Re: HuntingandHarleys]
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 Originally Posted By: HuntingandHarleys
D--n i hate that- now a Mexican heavyweight champion.


What does that have to do with anything?

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#2126721 - 10/24/10 12:07 AM Re: UFC 121 Lesnar vs. Velasquez official thread [Re: HuntingandHarleys]
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 Originally Posted By: HuntingandHarleys
D--n i hate that- now a Mexican heavyweight champion.


Who is better than LESNAR!!!!!
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#2126722 - 10/24/10 12:08 AM Re: UFC 121 Lesnar vs. Velasquez official thread [Re: spitndrum]
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#2126728 - 10/24/10 12:13 AM Re: UFC 121 Lesnar vs. Velasquez official thread [Re: spitndrum]
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Hope you guys don't run out tomorrow and get you a brown pride tattoo and a mexican flag to fly.......LOL.
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#2126734 - 10/24/10 12:19 AM Re: UFC 121 Lesnar vs. Velasquez official thread [Re: HuntingandHarleys]
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Not me brother, I'm not defending against what you said I stand for the same you do, don't want em here unless there supposed to be but Cain has good Morals after watching primetime, no brown pride or flags for me ha ha!
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#2126736 - 10/24/10 12:25 AM Re: UFC 121 Lesnar vs. Velasquez official thread [Re: HuntingandHarleys]
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 Originally Posted By: HuntingandHarleys
Hope you guys don't run out tomorrow and get you a brown pride tattoo and a mexican flag to fly.......LOL.

I'm proud of my southern heritage as I suppose he is proud of his Mexican heritage.

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#2126737 - 10/24/10 12:29 AM Re: UFC 121 Lesnar vs. Velasquez official thread [Re: spitndrum]
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 Originally Posted By: spitndrum
Not me brother, I'm not defending against what you said I stand for the same you do, don't want em here unless there supposed to be but Cain has good Morals after watching primetime, no brown pride or flags for me ha ha!

Not that i hated so much seeing Brock get beat, if it had been Carwin i would not hated it as bad at all. Something about that brown pride tattoo just rubbed me the wrong way. I have never met you but from what i know you on this site i am pretty sure you bleed red, white and blue just like i do....

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#2127194 - 10/24/10 12:46 PM Re: UFC 121 Lesnar vs. Velasquez official thread [Re: HuntingandHarleys]
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O sure!!!!
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#2127348 - 10/24/10 03:31 PM Re: UFC 121 Lesnar vs. Velasquez official thread [Re: spitndrum]
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#2127351 - 10/24/10 03:34 PM Re: UFC 121 Lesnar vs. Velasquez official thread [Re: FLIPPER]
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#2127456 - 10/24/10 05:00 PM Re: UFC 121 Lesnar vs. Velasquez official thread [Re: Dodge Man]
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#2127600 - 10/24/10 06:49 PM Re: UFC 121 Lesnar vs. Velasquez official thread [Re: ]
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He looked like a turtle on his back last night with very little agility as well as a pathetic ground game.
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#2127637 - 10/24/10 07:06 PM Re: UFC 121 Lesnar vs. Velasquez official thread [Re: holstonangler]
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 Originally Posted By: holstonangler
He looked like a turtle on his back last night with very little agility as well as a pathetic ground game.


I'm lovin this thread \:D
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#2127638 - 10/24/10 07:06 PM Re: UFC 121 Lesnar vs. Velasquez official thread [Re: spitndrum]
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#2127788 - 10/24/10 07:56 PM Re: UFC 121 Lesnar vs. Velasquez official thread [Re: spitndrum]
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WTH!!! I can't belive that Brock got beat that Bad! Do you guys think that Cain was that much better or that Brock was not at 100%? Brock did not look like the same Brock that he has in his last 3 fights!!! He looked like maybe 20 to 30 lbs lighter and not as strong! He still had 20lbs over Cain at weigh in but He was no where near the size he was when fighting Shane Carwin. I think he tried something difernet coming in lighter and payed the price for it.
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#2128012 - 10/24/10 09:05 PM Re: UFC 121 Lesnar vs. Velasquez official thread [Re: Dodge Man]
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Not to get anything started, and I know your looking for opinions Dodge Man but Lesnar needs no excuses for him losing, anymore from his sickness and I'll throw up, I know he was Ill but all the interviews he said he was ready to go....this was a quote from Lesnar I found on my Cage Pages app on my Droid....

"When I beat Cain's [censored], I'll go home drink a Corona and eat a Burrito to celebrate his Latino Heritage!"

WONDER IF BROCK LIKES BLOOD ON HIS BURRITO!!!

He was ready might not of looked the best in the last 3 fights but IMO IMO IMO IMO IMO IMO Brock dosen't have the chin that all the Lesnar fans thinks he does, Carwin hit him he hit the mat, Cain hit him he couldnt get back to his feet he was running away so quickly, he has some phenominal POWER though I will say!

Thats just a lil of my 2 cents!

Which is why this is a debate, we can talk about anything and everyone is entitled to an opinion??
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#2128488 - 10/25/10 08:41 AM Re: UFC 121 Lesnar vs. Velasquez official thread [Re: spitndrum]
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I am not trying to saw he was sick or had lost weight from being sick. I have heard from a few places he was trying to drop some of his walking around weight and get his Cardio up. It just looked like he was more cut and defined but his over all body and size was smaller.

I am not trying to make excuses for him I am glad he lost but he just did not look at the same level he has in his last few fights. I thought if Brock ever got on top of Cain he would really work him over. But Cain just pushed him off like Brock was not there and got back up and went to beating on him again.

Who do you think Brock will fight next? Carwin and Brock will prob get to fight togather next to see who gets a rematch for the title? If not for Brocks next fight it will be for sure the one after that. At least that is my guess? Anybody else?
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#2128995 - 10/25/10 02:17 PM Re: UFC 121 Lesnar vs. Velasquez official thread [Re: Dodge Man]
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I finally got to watch the fight earlier today. Lesner was pathetic! Is he really that pathetic? Is Cain that good? MIR was that bad!!! Yes, I am a Mir hater.

I don't know what to think. He got his butt handed to him, that is for sure. I did like how he took it like a man and after the fight said Cain was better than him that night.

Now the debate stuff... he threw the fight, they will have a rematch for big $$$ and Lesner will smoke him. LOL, just saying...


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#2129147 - 10/25/10 04:19 PM Re: UFC 121 Lesnar vs. Velasquez official thread [Re: medwc]
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 Originally Posted By: medwc
Now the debate stuff... he threw the fight, they will have a rematch for big $$$ and Lesner will smoke him. LOL, just saying...



\:D

Thats exactly I said after the fight.
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#2129181 - 10/25/10 04:47 PM Re: UFC 121 Lesnar vs. Velasquez official thread [Re: FLIPPER]
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BS If they were going to through the fight I don't think Brock would have looked that bad and I think it would have gone 2 or 3 rounds! \:D
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#2129216 - 10/25/10 05:25 PM Re: UFC 121 Lesnar vs. Velasquez official thread [Re: Dodge Man]
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Ha...if Carwin couldn't finish him...how could the little man???
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#2129543 - 10/25/10 08:06 PM Re: UFC 121 Lesnar vs. Velasquez official thread [Re: FLIPPER]
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Cain and Carwin would be close, this fight wasn't thrown I'd like to see em fight again, I promise you Cain or Carwin will beat him if given the fight again watch and see!
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#2129840 - 10/25/10 09:38 PM Re: UFC 121 Lesnar vs. Velasquez official thread [Re: spitndrum]
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If Lesner wants a big pay day he needs to forget about the UFC and work out a fight with Fedor. Fedor draws worldwide and a monster like Lesner will only add to that appeal.
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#2129952 - 10/25/10 10:04 PM Re: UFC 121 Lesnar vs. Velasquez official thread [Re: FLIPPER]
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 Originally Posted By: FLIPPER
Ha...if Carwin couldn't finish him...how could the little man???

Pretty obvious if you saw both fights.
Cain has a gas tank and Carwin doesnt. Carwin went for broke and wore himself out in the first round punching lesnar in the arms.

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#2130032 - 10/25/10 10:38 PM Re: UFC 121 Lesnar vs. Velasquez official thread [Re: Kirk]
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The only fight I care to see in the ufc heavyweight division is between Dos Santos and Velasquez. The Ufc seems content to recycle and rematch it's high profile fighters, because they are selling pay-per-views. Dana White doesn't seem willing to do what it takes to bring in world class talent.

If he had swallowed his pride and brought in Emelianenko sevaral years ago, he truly would have had the best fighter in the world. Instead he chose to belittle him and his team. It is a shame that the world's best heavyweight could not have performed on the world's biggest stage when he was in his prime.
Even now, I feel the two top heavyweights, Emelianenko and Overeem are outside of the ufc.

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#2131600 - 10/26/10 06:45 PM Re: UFC 121 Lesnar vs. Velasquez official thread [Re: redcorn]
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I was kidding about the "he threw the fight" thing. I watched it several time more and Cain is a big powerful guy also. Cain was always hitting Brock with something to the head. Several elbows here and there, a good knee to the head/jaw and lots of punches to the head just did the damage. I now think Lesner was just beat and showed his inexperience in MMA (real fighting).
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#2132005 - 10/26/10 08:39 PM Re: UFC 121 Lesnar vs. Velasquez official thread [Re: medwc]
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 Originally Posted By: medwc
I was kidding about the "he threw the fight" thing. I watched it several time more and Cain is a big powerful guy also. Cain was always hitting Brock with something to the head. Several elbows here and there, a good knee to the head/jaw and lots of punches to the head just did the damage. I now think Lesner was just beat and showed his inexperience in MMA (real fighting).


I I wasn't blasting you, just saying when a big fighter loses everyone that are fans goes into the DENIAL cave and won't come out then there like well he had a Vasectomy 3 days prior to the fight or he has kidney stones or he broke his finger in training, its not the ole....He just plain ole got his [censored] whipped but this post of yours explained it well I'm not saying brock don't belong here as he was the best...but Entertainment is where he is best, he just don't impress me with his lay on em 60lbs heavier and punch...If I was the best in a 150lb class and someone 200lbs fought me and laid on me I wouldnt win either, I think there wieghts should be the same on fight day no weight gain....look at his fights....while most by TKO and KO indeed but its just 5....one loss to a SUB the other a TKO....O ya Brock beat Carwin by Sub which I said time and time again I was impress to see him use soemthing different my 2 cents only....

I told my cousin today....If Jim Carrey fought Brock I would pull for Jim Carrey thats just me....I can't stand Brock he is WWE Material IMO
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