#2102935 - 10/08/10 07:03 AM
Re: gestation and rut
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BSK
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I can promise that 5 miles could possibly make a difference in the rut timing. I had 4000 acres leased in Hardeman County for several years. Our rut started within days from the same date every year. Another guy I knew not quite 5 miles down the road experienced the rut 7-10 days prior to us every year for the 10 years I hunted there.
I completely agree. However, would 7-10 days actually make a big difference in fawn size at this time of year?
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#2102989 - 10/08/10 07:48 AM
Re: gestation and rut
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tndrbstr
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I can promise that 5 miles could possibly make a difference in the rut timing. I had 4000 acres leased in Hardeman County for several years. Our rut started within days from the same date every year. Another guy I knew not quite 5 miles down the road experienced the rut 7-10 days prior to us every year for the 10 years I hunted there. I completely agree. However, would 7-10 days actually make a big difference in fawn size at this time of year?
I guess I can see where that would be correct...Heck, It seems like I read on here every year guys that might even hunt togeather...one will say the rut is full on at the first deer they see running and the other one on the other side of the same hill is complaining because certain conditions have supressed the rut for the entire season!... 
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#2103642 - 10/08/10 04:41 PM
Re: gestation and rut
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Mike Belt
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BSK--Overall it would make no difference in the fawns we see or when they're dropped. However, what I've been seeing over the last few years is more and more extremely young fawns this time of the year. Considering that we take many more does now and that we pass on bucks now that would have been dropped years ago the sex ratios and the age ratios keep getting better and better. With that in mind you'd think the rut would be more tightly timed and of shorter duration with fewer does and more bucks to do the breeding. I do believe this is happening for the most part and I understand that there will always be late born fawns from does for whatever reasons not being bred their first time or two in estrous and from early born doe fawns coming into heat for their first time late in the season. I'm still seeing more fawns not over a month old this time of year than I did years ago. Why?
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#2103656 - 10/08/10 05:00 PM
Re: gestation and rut
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whistlinwingman
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For some reason the second rut is more "truer" than the supposed first rut on my property. It is east TN though.
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#2105264 - 10/10/10 07:50 AM
Re: gestation and rut
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Mike,
I suspect you've already touched on it: healthier deer population producing more females fawns that reach puberty as fawns and breed late.
Is anyone at Ames tracking lactation of yearling does? Lactating yearlings are females that were successfully bred as fawns.
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