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#2105080 - 10/09/10 10:12 PM Re: lost another buck [Re: RAFI]
stik
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 Originally Posted By: RAFI



i can't buy that you might be right but don't see how.I can watch an arrow rise and fall at 30 yards so how is a bullet falling from the start?I understand gravity but its seems like its force over gravity to me.gravity is pulling a football down as soon as you throw it but if you put enough force on the throw it will rise before it falls.


the barrel, like the arrow, is angled upward at the beginning. draw a straight line down the bore or the arrow. the projectile never rises above this line. it is not force making the football "rise" either but the angle at which it was originally thrown.
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#2105090 - 10/09/10 10:19 PM Re: lost another buck [Re: knightrider]
Greg M
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Registered: 02/11/10
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Loc: Riverview, FL/ Bluff City, TN

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 Originally Posted By: knightrider
 Originally Posted By: gmckinney626
 Originally Posted By: bigspike
shot deer at 630 am.


Not to be a stickler for details, but I don't think we've had a "legal sunrise" of 7 AM yet. Maybe I'm wrong.
according to which time zone your in



See, I was wrong. LOL. Forgot about that detail.
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#2105092 - 10/09/10 10:21 PM Re: lost another buck [Re: bigspike]
Setterman
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 Originally Posted By: bigspike
shot deer at 630 am.started tracking at 11.found really good blood for about 600 yards then he started up a very step hill just like the other ones.took the day of 2 look 4 deer.x bow was a barnett 375 fps.i have several pope and yong also a few b&C from tn il and ky.if can someone tell me how 2 post pics on here.


Who cares how many big deer you have killed? You do seem to lose an inordinate amount of deer.

I have also killed my share of big deer as well as others on this forum. So what is your point?

Sounds like single lung hits or liver hits, the result of taking poor shots (quartering too) rather then good shots (quartering away).

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#2105139 - 10/09/10 11:07 PM Re: lost another buck [Re: RAFI]
Yodel Dog
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 Originally Posted By: RAFI
 Originally Posted By: Winchester

The simplest way I know to explain it is, a bullet is losing speed and energy, and falling toward the ground from the time it leaves the barrel. A bullet absolutely does not rise above the barrel after the shot, gravity is pulling it toward the ground instantly. Your scope is mounted above the barrel, and the xhairs in the scope are what is zeroed on the target, which is why you shoot low at close distances and high at mid range and then back low again down range. The bullet however has been falling toward the ground since it left the barrel, I promise. \:\/



i can't buy that you might be right but don't see how.I can watch an arrow rise and fall at 30 yards so how is a bullet falling from the start?I understand gravity but its seems like its force over gravity to me.gravity is pulling a football down as soon as you throw it but if you put enough force on the throw it will rise before it falls.


Google "Newton's laws of motion". They were proven in the 1600's.
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#2105144 - 10/09/10 11:11 PM Re: lost another buck [Re: stik]
pass-thru
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 Originally Posted By: stik
 Originally Posted By: RAFI



i can't buy that you might be right but don't see how.I can watch an arrow rise and fall at 30 yards so how is a bullet falling from the start?I understand gravity but its seems like its force over gravity to me.gravity is pulling a football down as soon as you throw it but if you put enough force on the throw it will rise before it falls.


the barrel, like the arrow, is angled upward at the beginning. draw a straight line down the bore or the arrow. the projectile never rises above this line. it is not force making the football "rise" either but the angle at which it was originally thrown.


stop making sense, somebody might get confused \:\)

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#2105146 - 10/09/10 11:19 PM Re: lost another buck [Re: pass-thru]
Tiny
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 Originally Posted By: pass-thru
 Originally Posted By: stik
 Originally Posted By: RAFI



i can't buy that you might be right but don't see how.I can watch an arrow rise and fall at 30 yards so how is a bullet falling from the start?I understand gravity but its seems like its force over gravity to me.gravity is pulling a football down as soon as you throw it but if you put enough force on the throw it will rise before it falls.


the barrel, like the arrow, is angled upward at the beginning. draw a straight line down the bore or the arrow. the projectile never rises above this line. it is not force making the football "rise" either but the angle at which it was originally thrown.


stop making sense, somebody might get confused \:\)


Yep \:D
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#2105150 - 10/09/10 11:24 PM Re: lost another buck [Re: Tiny]
bucknutz101
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wrong...an arrow when accelerating will climb before it descends and a bullet will also
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#2105157 - 10/09/10 11:39 PM Re: lost another buck [Re: bucknutz101]
Yodel Dog
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 Originally Posted By: bucknutz101
wrong...an arrow when accelerating will climb before it descends and a bullet will also


So you're saying an arrow is still accelerating after it has left the bowstring and a bullet is accelerating after it has left the barrel? Have you tested your theory?
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#2105177 - 10/10/10 12:12 AM Re: lost another buck [Re: bucknutz101]
Grizzly Johnson
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 Originally Posted By: bucknutz101
wrong...an arrow when accelerating will climb before it descends and a bullet will also


Check this out....

Bullet Trajectory
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#2105282 - 10/10/10 08:17 AM Re: lost another buck [Re: bigspike]
jdyer
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I had not missed a deer in several years then last year I shot 2 in the same weekend and did not recover them. One I watched go down and waited for 30 min. Went to were I shot it and had good blood. I walked into the woods it was laying down it got up and it jumped the fence onto property that is heavily posted. By the time I got permission to track it the deer was gone. I looked for hours felt sick. Actually I still feel bad...want to get the monkey off my back

Sited my gun in again it was on the spot. I also went to a heavier grain bullet.

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