I had decided not post on here but I have trouble not posting on Sundays

1- On the rise and fall thing. I never quite understood the Roman Empre deal but a bullet or arrow does both rise and fall. You are all right. The controversey is some of you are talking about "zero" and some are talking point of impact. If a bow or rifle is "zeroed" at say 50 yards, the arrow and the bullet MUST rise and fall between the point of impact and the object doing the shooting. BUT-the projectile does lose velocity and does drop during the same travel. Picture a baseball pitcher throwing a fastball from a 46-foot, little league mound and a 60-foot major league mound. The ball from the LL mound may travel at 70-mph and from the major league mound travel 95-mph even though both are thrown at the same speed. The difference is in how long it takes for the batter to react, (reaction time). Actually, because a projectile does lose velocity and does drop as it travels, it must gain height to hit the desired poa because it is losing speed and dropping the entire distance

Now since that makes no sense, I'll explain losing and missing deer. This is much simpler to understand. If you shoot at enough deer...or any animal, you will miss some and you will lose some. That is the law of Lackey and can be found in the periodic tables of probability. Anyone who truthfully says, "I have never missed/lost an animal has not shot at very many.

I once watched a very well known target archer of some years back, one with a book or two on accuracy to his credit, miss four in a row before hitting a doe that we never found. He held a knife to my throat and made me promise to never write about it.

I'm so very glad I was able to clear that up.

But to lose four in two years tells me there is a problem in tracking/trailing and perhaps a problem with the verdant heeby jeebies, also known as buck fever. That is the problem my tournament archer friend had.

And I do agree with that if the angle of the barrel bore never rises above the 0' horizontal degree (line of sight in this case). Which is NOT the case when sighting in a scope..at least it is not when I sight in mine...

The same goes with a shot gun, How could anyone ever kill a dove flying 20 yards above thier head if the shot starts falling towards the ground instantly when it leaves the gun barrel? If the barrel muzzle is pointed upward in an elevated position from the breech of a gun (from horizontal level) the bullet WILL continue to rise from horizontal level to some degree until gravity over rides the velocity (speed/energy) provided from the accelerant...of course the key being that the barrel must be pointed in an upward direction for the bullet to continue that way. Of course if the barrel is pointed to the ground then the bullet will be heading that BEFORE it ever leaves the barrel!! ..There is no confusion about that, at least not on my part..







Thanks Stik! THAT is the point I am trying to make!! While not rising above its original tragectory, it will contune to follow the original trajectory untill gravity over rides its velocity...and when sighting in a scope, the barrel muzzle must be pointed slightly upward from the breech (in relation to the line of sight) for the bullet to ever intersect that scopes line of sight if the cross hairs are anywhere above the axis of the barrel...

Site in a gun with a scope at zero on 200 yards...take the same gun and shoot in a weightless/non gravitational environment (outer space) and see which direction the the bullet continues to travel from the original line of sight.....

Now it makes more sense. You are confusing rise with angle of trajectory. They are two different things.

LMAO, a few here obviously failed physics! Like stated earlier, the bullet NEVER rises above the direct line of the barrel PERIOD. Now you point the barrel UP and SURE the bullet is going up, but again NEVER above the direct line of the barrel. This is what your doing when sighting your gun in at 200 Yards, slightly aiming upwards to compensate for the drop. Couple this with the fact that your scope is mounted ABOVE the barrel and this is where many simply cant grasp the concept and continue to think the bullet is rising. LOL oh well I tried to explain but you cant take spots off a Leopard I guess!
I think Bigspikes bow is too fast and his arrows are rising above the deer! LMAO

LMAO, a few here obviously failed physics

Yep.

Which hits the ground first - a bullet fired from a level gun barrel or a bullet dropped from the same height?

Yep.

Which hits the ground first - a bullet fired from a level gun barrel or a bullet dropped from the same height?