#2080928 - 09/21/10 09:00 PM
Re: To pee, or not to pee...
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Let Er Fly. I try not to do it often but when I do I let it go. I am one of those who have had deer very close to my stand not long after I pee and some of them smell it and do nothing and some get a bit nervous. Probably depends on wind and pressure.
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#2080933 - 09/21/10 09:03 PM
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#2080938 - 09/21/10 09:05 PM
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I use to carry a bottle no matter what stopped doing it last year and didn't see much of a difference
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#2081029 - 09/21/10 09:44 PM
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Piss.....It will help. Pee is one of the best deer attractants - In scrapes, or pissing off your stand. I used to be just like you.....Carry a big Gatorade bottle in my backpack everywhere I went. Boy, have I learned. Just piss...thats all I have to say. The sound off your stand and the smell of it in a scrape to a mature deer....It fools them
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#2081051 - 09/21/10 10:05 PM
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lmao for real
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#2081072 - 09/21/10 10:20 PM
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#2081084 - 09/21/10 10:36 PM
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#2081085 - 09/21/10 10:40 PM
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#2081091 - 09/21/10 10:46 PM
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#2081147 - 09/22/10 04:51 AM
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pee in the bottle and when it gets cold you have cold pee! Helps when you get thirsty out there on a long stand stay!
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#2081148 - 09/22/10 04:53 AM
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#2081152 - 09/22/10 05:01 AM
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Piss is Piss. Whether you do it or an animal does it. I let it fly.
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#2081195 - 09/22/10 06:23 AM
Re: To pee, or not to pee...
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pee in the bottle and when it gets cold you have cold pee! Helps when you get thirsty out there on a long stand stay!
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#2081298 - 09/22/10 07:49 AM
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LMAO Post of the Day right there !!!!!
Creative and to the point John !!!
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#2081302 - 09/22/10 07:51 AM
Re: To pee, or not to pee...
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I dont do it. So I really dont know the ups and downs.
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#2081318 - 09/22/10 08:00 AM
Re: To pee, or not to pee...
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#2081326 - 09/22/10 08:04 AM
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Let 'er rip. Or hold it to freshen scrapes with on the walk out. The sound of pee hitting dry leaves is also a great attractant during the rut. I've "called in" numerous deer while peeing from the stand.
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#2081420 - 09/22/10 08:50 AM
Re: To pee, or not to pee...
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Due to the amount of protein we consume, it follows that human urine shares similarities in odor to that of other predators, which alone, could potentially spook deer at anytime. The amount of toxins and chemicals we consume, has the potential to complicate this matter. That being said, urine breaks down into ammonia relatively quickly, in which case it would likely be indistinguishable from other the urine of other animals.
At any given time, its going to be a roll of the dice. Yes, you may attract deer with the sound of urine hitting the ground. Yes, if the timing is right, it may be effective to freshen a scrape with urine. Or, a deer may detect the protein levels of a predator, pick up a unknown smell of last nights beer and this mornings coffee, and couple that with the slight piece of scent you left on a leaf during your approach, all of that data combined confirms your presence and the deer may be on a rocket ride to the next property, never to return.
Many of you are thinking of urine in isolation, where, it may not negatively effect your hunting, but combined with other human evidence: recently removed trees and limbs, scent from your boots and clothing, coffee on your breath, the sound of you zipping up your pants, etc... any combination of evidence could negatively impact your hunting, not to mention the fact that your urine all of a sudden shows up during hunting season. If you went around urinating on your treestands during the summer, deer may become accustomed to the smell and perceive it as non threatening.
Think about it: Hunted deer go all Spring and Summer with little human intrusion. Then, about the time the acorns start falling, humans start entering the woods and pissing around trees. Almost immediately, those humans start trying to kill you, mostly from the tree line. If pressured deer have made adjustments to tree stands by scanning the tree line for danger, what makes you think your high-protein, toxicity laced urine (dehydrated, yellow urine would only concentrate the protein and toxicity), steaming of the ground on a cold morning, doesn't give you away as well?
So, while you stand a chance of attracting the curiosity of a deer, you stand a chance of tipping the deer off. I understand that some of you hunt unpressured or less pressured deer, in which case, urinating may not have any negative effect on your hunting, however, the deer I hunt have been to a few rodeos and seem to know the routine all to well.
In closing, I leave you with one word: Discipline.
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#2081446 - 09/22/10 09:07 AM
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Poser,
I have no doubt deer can differentiate many things in urine. Their noses are easily good enough to do that. In fact, I remember seeing a study that showed deer reacted more negatively to the urine of coyotes that had been on a meat diet versus coyotes on a fruit diet.
That said, all I can go buy is years and years of research on deer and human urine. I have spent a great deal of time studying how deer react to human urine in scrapes. Not only does it NOT send them running, for some unknown reason, they find it very interesting. Having conducted many non-baited trail-cam surveys of hunting properties during the hunting season, the NUMBER 1 technique for catching the oldest bucks on camera is to create mock scrapes with human urine. Invariably I will get the oldest buck I'm going to photo-capture on human urine mock scrapes, and these very old bucks will come back time and again to these artificial scrapes (which only start as artificial--bucks quickly take them over and they become "real" scrapes). In fact, these mock human scrapes usually turn into some of the best and hottest tradition scrapes on the property over several years.
To date, I have never seen a negative reaction from deer to fresh human urine (and I mean fresh, as in just a few seconds old).
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#2081448 - 09/22/10 09:08 AM
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"DISCIPLINE"...that to me, means "don't pee on your hands"...when I do, I get my cigarettes wet, and they are hard to light!
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#2081460 - 09/22/10 09:15 AM
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"DISCIPLINE"...that to me, means "don't pee on your hands"...when I do, I get my cigarettes wet, and they are hard to light!
Me too. We be old sckool!
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#2081475 - 09/22/10 09:20 AM
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no more bottles for me, let it fly. just remember to point down wind
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#2081514 - 09/22/10 09:42 AM
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No doubt in my mind about moch scrapes - made 'em - they work great -
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#2081585 - 09/22/10 10:19 AM
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I usually use a bottle simply because I don't want any type of scent attracted to my tree but have done it from the stand mostly during gun season !
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#2081591 - 09/22/10 10:23 AM
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Pee it will not effect anything. I hunt high pressure public land and it does not effect those deer. If it doesn't effect them then it will not effect any deer IMO.
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#2081596 - 09/22/10 10:27 AM
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I've pretty much killed a 6 or 7 foot cedar tree the is about 3 foot from the base of my favorite stand. I don't use it to mask the pee scent as much as I hit it to filter noise.
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#2081608 - 09/22/10 10:39 AM
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Didn't believe in it till I started peein in scrapes then puttin my deer camera up. Wow, the deer really come use the scrapes then. Now I let'er rip. Tomtaker has a bunch of pics also from doing that.
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#2082215 - 09/22/10 06:47 PM
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After my little experiment I say pee. I had a little 5pt in front of me for over two hours. He wouldn't leave and I had no idea why if or when he would. So I did my thing. He heard the sound and got up to see what it was. Walked right up and smelled my spot. Not holding it any more.
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#2082230 - 09/22/10 06:56 PM
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#2082279 - 09/22/10 07:38 PM
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DEPENDS ON WHERE IM AT IF IM IN THE STAND ILL LET IT FLY IF IM IN THE BLIND NO WAY CAN BE A LITTLE PUNGENT AFTER ALOT OF COFFEE
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#2082356 - 09/22/10 08:18 PM
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Well the vote is pretty lopsided to lettin it fly.... Matter of fact after BSK's post, I'm gonna make a mock scrape after I climb down saturday morning and put my trail cam where I can monitor my mineral lick and my scrape. Im really looking forward to this!!
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#2082401 - 09/22/10 08:37 PM
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IF IM IN THE BLIND NO WAY CAN BE A LITTLE PUNGENT AFTER ALOT OF COFFEE
HA!!! Never tought of that Shagee, but you're right. I don't think I would pee inside my blind!
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#2082407 - 09/22/10 08:40 PM
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I put a lot of effort into controlling my scent, but when I have to go I let her rip right off the stand lol!
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#2082461 - 09/22/10 08:58 PM
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Wow! Cant argue with that.
Edited by khawk (09/22/10 08:59 PM)
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#2082622 - 09/22/10 10:26 PM
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Been lettin' er rip for a long time.
I killed 2 does several years ago, within a few minutes of each other. One actually had her nose in the leaves I had just peed on minutes earlier when I shot her.
The other one walked up to about 5 feet of the same spot.
Shot her too.
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Leave my pee alone. 
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#2082629 - 09/22/10 10:42 PM
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#2082632 - 09/22/10 10:47 PM
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I let it fly, and I also pee in scrapes.
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#2082987 - 09/23/10 09:10 AM
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you don't tug on supermans cape or piss in the wind. But if you have to go you have to go. But I don't think I would do it if I could wait.
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#2083005 - 09/23/10 09:23 AM
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Bryan - do you do anyting to the tree above ?????
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#2083014 - 09/23/10 09:29 AM
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let er rip tater chip!
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#2083033 - 09/23/10 09:55 AM
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#2083290 - 09/23/10 12:01 PM
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Bryan - do you do anyting to the tree above ?????
ferg....
No, I don't doctor the overhanging limb. HOWEVER, it is CRITICAL that an overhanging limb exist at just the right height.
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#2083306 - 09/23/10 12:13 PM
Re: To pee, or not to pee...
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Been lettin' er rip for a long time. I killed 2 does several years ago, within a few minutes of each other. One actually had her nose in the leaves I had just peed on minutes earlier when I shot her. The other one walked up to about 5 feet of the same spot. Shot her too. Moral of the story? Leave my pee alone.
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#2083317 - 09/23/10 12:19 PM
Re: To pee, or not to pee...
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Good time Charlie
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"DISCIPLINE"...that to me, means "don't pee on your hands"...when I do, I get my cigarettes wet, and they are hard to light!
Not long enough hose
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What I want to know is....what do the ladies do? 
Probably have to climb down at least 
