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#2070993 - 09/14/10 09:27 PM Small tree rubs from old bucks
Robbhorn
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Heard from a buddy (with a nice collection of racks) that he's been taught that alot of the rubs were seeing right now on 1-2" cedars is actually more likely your older larger bucks and that the big rubs we see here in a few more weeks are actually smaller younger bucks who hold there felt longer... Any real answers or theories?
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#2071017 - 09/14/10 09:40 PM Re: Small tree rubs from old bucks [Re: Robbhorn]
Setterman
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I don't know that there is any definitive answers on rub size and how it might correlate to deer age. My personal opinion is that testosterone levels rise differently in different deer, and that age of a deer plays a smaller role then the individual deer and their hormones.

It is also referred to as velvet, and not felt, just an FYI.

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#2071028 - 09/14/10 09:43 PM Re: Small tree rubs from old bucks [Re: Setterman]
Robbhorn
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Makes sense...
FYI I've always called it felt... Been in the roofing industry so long felt is second nature. Sorry

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#2071030 - 09/14/10 09:44 PM Re: Small tree rubs from old bucks [Re: Robbhorn]
whistlinwingman
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 Originally Posted By: Robbhorn
Heard from a buddy (with a nice collection of racks) that he's been taught that alot of the rubs were seeing right now on 1-2" cedars is actually more likely your older larger bucks and that the big rubs we see here in a few more weeks are actually smaller younger bucks who hold there felt longer... Any real answers or theories?


I can't imagine this theory to ever be proven that it is correct.
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#2071139 - 09/14/10 10:40 PM Re: Small tree rubs from old bucks [Re: Robbhorn]
turkinator
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I have watched and caught on cameras, big deer rubbing small diameter and big diameter trees. The same with smaller deer. Year b4 last I found a cedar as big as the top of my leg that was torn up. I just knew I had a hoss! Put up a camera and checked it a week later, 14"-15" 70-80" buck :(----The only thing I really get excited about now is height of the rub or an actual sighting or trail cam picture

Not to hijack but I will add one more thing that trail cams have enlightened me too. ----Every year I monitor scrapes. I have yet to hang a camera and get pics of just 1 buck. Have had as many as 11 different bucks working the same scrape---from a spike to a 120" deer

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#2071159 - 09/14/10 10:52 PM Re: Small tree rubs from old bucks [Re: turkinator]
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My theory is that your buddy is misinformed.
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#2071201 - 09/14/10 11:24 PM Re: Small tree rubs from old bucks [Re: Pursuit Hunter]
Good time Charlie
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It does seem that the older deer lose velvet sooner
But as we have learned this week ,It can be gone in just a few hours without any rubbing
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#2071233 - 09/15/10 01:17 AM Re: Small tree rubs from old bucks [Re: Pursuit Hunter]
bowriter
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 Originally Posted By: Pursuit Hunter
My theory is that your buddy is misinformed.


Not neccesarily. Quite often that may be the case, not often, but it does happen that way sometimes.
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#2071234 - 09/15/10 01:18 AM Re: Small tree rubs from old bucks [Re: Good time Charlie]
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 Originally Posted By: Darton man
It does seem that the older deer lose velvet sooner
But as we have learned this week ,It can be gone in just a few hours without any rubbing


Most of the velvet is removed by the back feet. Then they eat it.
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#2071273 - 09/15/10 06:12 AM Re: Small tree rubs from old bucks [Re: bowriter]
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 Originally Posted By: bowriter
 Originally Posted By: Pursuit Hunter
My theory is that your buddy is misinformed.


Not neccesarily. Quite often that may be the case, not often, but it does happen that way sometimes.
So if it happens that way sometimes, then by definition it doesn't happen that way some other times, which says to me that you can't assume small rubs are being made by big deer.
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