Heard from a buddy (with a nice collection of racks) that he's been taught that alot of the rubs were seeing right now on 1-2" cedars is actually more likely your older larger bucks and that the big rubs we see here in a few more weeks are actually smaller younger bucks who hold there felt longer... Any real answers or theories?

So BSK... In short, these rubs would in fact be started by older bucks, but by the time we get into hunting season it could be a spike I see near it? Am I understanding correctly?

Most of the velvet is removed by the back feet. Then they eat it.

Signpost rubs can mean a plethora of things, and most all deer in an area will contact them. Many times after a rub is established, visits from other deer may not even have rubbing of the antlers involved, they will rub the gland in their forehead and even lick the rub many times without touching an antler to it. Other times bucks of all ages and sizes may rework rubs as they come to them. I've heard some on here say they saw a button buck trying to work a rub, when he was just depositing scent. I do agree that large bucks will make rubs of all sizes, but smaller bucks wont tackle a large tree that hasnt already been initiated before them.