#2064217 - 09/09/10 08:07 PM
Re: Esplain me sumpin???
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biggest with a bow is not the same as biggest with a gun...lol.
I agree...dead is dead......
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#2064609 - 09/10/10 06:28 AM
Re: Esplain me sumpin???
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Coach
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For me...it's tougher to kill a good buck with a bow than a rifle. I have to get him into my range with a bow instead of anywhere in a 2-300 yard range with my rifle.
For me, bow hunting is much harder so if I can convince a buck to come close enough to me through my stand placement, grunting, scents...I'm likely to stick him.
So, I'd be more apt to shoot a buck with my bow that I would pass with my rifle.
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#2064800 - 09/10/10 09:09 AM
Re: Esplain me sumpin???
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WTM
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maybe its a cull buck and he would rather cull it with a bow. 
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#2064894 - 09/10/10 09:50 AM
Re: Esplain me sumpin???
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I promise you, the challenge was no greater with the bow than it was with a shotgun or mzl.
I disagree!
Just look at the differences, with a firearm, he could have killed the buck from 200 yards and barely ever moved at all in his ground blind, even made a marginal shot and relied on the shock to kill him or a quick follow up shot at the same distance.
Now take the Bow, I dont even have to explain what all has to happen to make a succesful kill on the same buck, but for starters 170 yards closer, and a good shot after drawing the bow undetected!
There is simply no comparison in the skill required!
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#2065185 - 09/10/10 01:19 PM
Re: Esplain me sumpin???
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whistlinwingman
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I tried like heck to kill a split browed deer last year with a bow. I think the deer was only 2.5 but couldn't positively confirm it. I had a chance to get him 2 times with a rifle but elected to pass. Why? I do not know. May never see him again. I just had in my mind if I could arrow him I would, but if not I was gonna let him go. Doesn't make any sense to me why I rationalized this, but I did. I may do the same on a buck this year. My standards should be the same with any weapon in hand but for some reason, I lower them when I have a bow. I'm trying to rid myself of this mindset!
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#2065228 - 09/10/10 01:52 PM
Re: Esplain me sumpin???
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BigCam50
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I guess the same reason Pope & Young accept a smaller score on a deer head than Boone & Crocket There you have it! Old bucks are in most cases much harder to kill with a bow because of its range limitations, therefore making it much harder to kill a mature/trophy buck at inside 30 yards, vs. say 300 yards. And thats just the tip of the iceberg, you have to draw your bow unseen by the deer at close range, make a good shot with a good angle, then be able to blood trail accordingly, etc, etc. Many and most times with a gun you can drop a deer on the spot from many angles at most any range, with a huge amount of shock. Whereas a bow is from massive hemmorage only unless you spine him. Bottom line is they are much harder to kill and you must be much more skilled to consistently kill them with a bow. All that being said, I now require them to suit a certain criteria regardless of weapon, but that wasnt always the case.
Well said and agree 100%
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#2065235 - 09/10/10 01:57 PM
Re: Esplain me sumpin???
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gator-n-buck
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Doesn't make much sense to me, especially since a bullet is a lot cheaper then an arrow/broadhead.... 
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#2065270 - 09/10/10 02:19 PM
Re: Esplain me sumpin???
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bvoss
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A shooter for a bow and a shooter for a gun are the same for me. I will shoot anything that scores around 120 or better. If I had my own place I would change the statement to include a mature buck that is 120 or better. I dont have my own land, however.
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#2065311 - 09/10/10 02:45 PM
Re: Esplain me sumpin???
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Coach
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Have to disagree with ya BW..it makes perfect sense to me. They might not get another chance!
When someone knows that they can reach out and kill a buck at 300 yards or more they can afford to be more selective...they don't have to be but they can be. They can wait for a bigger bodied deer, a bigger racked deer, a smaller tastier deer..etc With a bow you sometimes really can't afford to be that selective.
However, if all you are talking about is trophy hunting then it wouldn't matter I guess... but my guess is most people will shoot a smaller bodied or smaller racked buck with a bow than with a gun and it makes perfect sense.
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#2065349 - 09/10/10 03:26 PM
Re: Esplain me sumpin???
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Carnage
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It wouldn't make a differnce to me what weapon is being used...if I'm going through the hassle of cutting,dragging and transporting, it's going to be a deer I'd be proud of.
Now that may be a 4-point who has an unusual rack, a nice coloring, or something else that catches my attention! 
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