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#2061774 - 09/08/10 07:21 AM Re: Are We Killing Too Many Bucks? [Re: MKWood]
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I don't know very many hunters that take more than one buck a year anyway. Are there really a lot who kill three a year? (serious queston)


I killed two, both culls. nothing pretty but I'm glad they didn't get much time to breed last year.


MK- Just curious, how do you know they were culls?
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#2061812 - 09/08/10 07:49 AM Re: Are We Killing Too Many Bucks? [Re: bowriter]
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A cull buck is any FULLY MATURE buck with a small rack!
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#2061837 - 09/08/10 07:58 AM Re: Are We Killing Too Many Bucks? [Re: Winchester]
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 Originally Posted By: Winchester
A cull buck is any FULLY MATURE buck with a small rack!


Why? How do you know that trait is passed on? Or is that a justification for shooting a buck with a small rack? Using that criteria, I would never have married my wife and she isn't a cull \:\)

I hear the "cull buck" term used most often when a hunter brings a perfectly healthy buck with a small rack to the check station, as in, "I wouldn't have shot him but I wanted to cull him from the gene pool."

HOGWASH!
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#2061857 - 09/08/10 08:10 AM Re: Are We Killing Too Many Bucks? [Re: bowriter]
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 Originally Posted By: bowriter
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A cull buck is any FULLY MATURE buck with a small rack!


Why? How do you know that trait is passed on? Or is that a justification for shooting a buck with a small rack? Using that criteria, I would never have married my wife and she isn't a cull \:\)

I hear the "cull buck" term used most often when a hunter brings a perfectly healthy buck with a small rack to the check station, as in, "I wouldn't have shot him but I wanted to cull him from the gene pool."

HOGWASH!

No sir, its actually an excuse most times for me to NOT shoot him because his rack doesnt fit the bill. Its a shame when a buck reaches full maturity and still has a small rack, IMO anyway. I know it happens pretty often in many areas but it still sux! I know what your talking about when people use the term "cull buck" and shoot a buck before he's mature because his rack is ugly or small or deformed, and I agree these bucks arent culls yet and may very well grow out of it. But once a buck reaches full maturity, yet still has a small rack, he's a cull in my eyes! Many times I dont even shoot these culls because I dont want to waste my tag on a buck Im not happy with.

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#2061858 - 09/08/10 08:10 AM Re: Are We Killing Too Many Bucks? [Re: bowriter]
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 Originally Posted By: bowriter
I hear the "cull buck" term used most often when a hunter brings a perfectly healthy buck with a small rack to the check station, as in, "I wouldn't have shot him but I wanted to cull him from the gene pool."

HOGWASH!


If a buck is being "removed" for the purpose of improving genetics, then correct, it is HOGWASH.
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#2061867 - 09/08/10 08:16 AM Re: Are We Killing Too Many Bucks? [Re: BSK]
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 Originally Posted By: bowriter
I hear the "cull buck" term used most often when a hunter brings a perfectly healthy buck with a small rack to the check station, as in, "I wouldn't have shot him but I wanted to cull him from the gene pool."

HOGWASH!


If a buck is being "removed" for the purpose of improving genetics, then correct, it is HOGWASH.

This I agree with, as killing any particular buck isnt going to help or hurt the genetics of the deer in an area!
But if he's mature with a small rack he's a cull IMO! Just like a 2 1/2 yr old with a super rack is a STUD IMO. Works both ways! But killing either of these deer wont likely help or hurt!

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#2061895 - 09/08/10 08:40 AM Re: Are We Killing Too Many Bucks? [Re: Winchester]
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If someone is "culling" a small-antlered mature buck just so he isn't around (not eating resources), that's fine.
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#2061898 - 09/08/10 08:46 AM Re: Are We Killing Too Many Bucks? [Re: BSK]
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 Originally Posted By: BSK
If someone is "culling" a small-antlered mature buck just so he isn't around (not eating resources), that's fine.

I agree, wont hurt a thing, matter of fact it may cause a subordinate buck to start expressing more of his potential!

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#2061902 - 09/08/10 08:51 AM Re: Are We Killing Too Many Bucks? [Re: bowriter]
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#2061962 - 09/08/10 09:27 AM Re: Are We Killing Too Many Bucks? [Re: MUP]
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Winchester, you and I are agreeing, you just use terms I don't. But we are saying the same thing.
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