#2057139 - 09/03/10 10:09 PM
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I am getting a buck on camera by his self that has just showed up. probably a 2.5 year old 8pt with all the velvet gone.this is the first buck i have gotten pics of all summer.once they shed that velvet alot of em move
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#2057386 - 09/04/10 09:20 AM
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I am getting a buck on camera by his self that has just showed up. probably a 2.5 year old 8pt with all the velvet gone.this is the first buck i have gotten pics of all summer.once they shed that velvet alot of em move
I find it interesting that you said he just showed up. For whetever reason, I believe antler velvet shedding produces some sort of "trigger" that bucks use to time their seasonal range shift from summer patterns to fall patterns.
When I get new fall range-shifters on trail-cam for the first time, they always have just shed their velvet.
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#2057528 - 09/04/10 01:39 PM
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#2057634 - 09/04/10 04:23 PM
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Same here BSK...almost always see "new bucks" literally right after they shed their velvet. Though, this year, I just got 2 new nice bucks on camera that I have never seen before and they still haven't shed their velvet. I'm trying to be optimistic, but am afraid they will leave anytime now (when they do shed). Actually, I haven't seen a buck yet that's shed their velvet.
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#2057644 - 09/04/10 04:34 PM
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#2057651 - 09/04/10 04:47 PM
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Saw a hard horn and a velevet buck together while squirreling this morn
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#2057747 - 09/04/10 07:12 PM
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I am getting a buck on camera by his self that has just showed up. probably a 2.5 year old 8pt with all the velvet gone.this is the first buck i have gotten pics of all summer.once they shed that velvet alot of em move I find it interesting that you said he just showed up. For whetever reason, I believe antler velvet shedding produces some sort of "trigger" that bucks use to time their seasonal range shift from summer patterns to fall patterns. When I get new fall range-shifters on trail-cam for the first time, they always have just shed their velvet. Need to go check my cams then
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#2058154 - 09/05/10 09:37 AM
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Give some thought to the shedding of velvet cooinciding with the first drop of mast. That too will cause a range shift.
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#2058324 - 09/05/10 01:31 PM
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Went up to IL yesterday to scout some new land and every buck I saw was in velvet.
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#2058358 - 09/05/10 02:40 PM
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Food Plot- Not every one. I got a picture taken three days ago of a 160 class that had shed his.
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#2058708 - 09/05/10 09:58 PM
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checked my camera today and had 2 new bucks i havent gotten pics of this year the biggest was a 4 by 2 with velvet and he was with a 5pt with no velvet except for a lil strip hanging from the tip of his beam and a 4pt that i have several pics of with no velvet at all. BSK the 4 pt is a 1 by 3 and just has one big spike on the right and 3 normal pts on the left and the bigger 6pt has one big spike on the right with a browtine and the left side has 4 normal points. could this be genetic and maybe be father and son? i have never seen both of them together at the same time and the 6 has just showed up in the last few days and the smaller one has been on my camera a few times.??
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#2059070 - 09/06/10 10:33 AM
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BSK the 4 pt is a 1 by 3 and just has one big spike on the right and 3 normal pts on the left and the bigger 6pt has one big spike on the right with a browtine and the left side has 4 normal points. could this be genetic and maybe be father and son?
Doubtful that it is genetic. Major differences from one side to the other--especially spike-on-one-side anomolies--are almost always injury induced.
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#2059505 - 09/06/10 06:32 PM
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Wow, the week of sept 21 thru 29th is the week here in middle Tn on the alabama line.
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#2061309 - 09/07/10 08:40 PM
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have a 6 point show up that i have 3 days worth of pics of in velvet but this morning he only had a strip hanging off.also had a friend tell me he was squirrel hunting this weekend and found 4 green rubs on trees as big as your arm.he said that he looked for velvet but the ants must have got it but i told him that i thought that i had read that some deer eat there velvet that they strip off? any one know?
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#2061823 - 09/08/10 07:51 AM
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Bucks often eat the velvet to regain the minerals/nutrients from the velvet. Does often eat their afterbirth for the same reason.
Most bucks don't even "rub off" the velvet. It just falls off all on its own.
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#2061871 - 09/08/10 08:20 AM
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Bucks often eat the velvet to regain the minerals/nutrients from the velvet. Does often eat their afterbirth for the same reason.
Most bucks don't even "rub off" the velvet. It just falls off all on its own. Exactly, I have actually saw one shaking and swinging a strip of loose velvet and actually pulled it free with his mouth and ate it, very cool to watch!
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#2063890 - 09/09/10 03:52 PM
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I have wondered how them bucks in the plains cleaned there antlers so good without a tree in the country.
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#2063894 - 09/09/10 03:54 PM
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I have wondered how them bucks in the plains cleaned there antlers so good without a tree in the country.
Bucks rarely rub the velvet off. It just falls off all on its own, and fairly quickly. The idea that rubs on trees are caused by bucks rubbing off velvet is an old wive's tale. They may thrash a shrub to help pull off velvet, but a true rub--where the tree is rubbed down below the bark--is another thing entirely.
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#2063969 - 09/09/10 05:03 PM
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My what an interesting and enlightening post,I never knew,and had other assumptions.
How long does the process take to get rid of the velvet,,We still have velvet bucks, at least up to a couple hours ago
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#2063985 - 09/09/10 05:15 PM
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Less than a day.
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#2064500 - 09/10/10 12:21 AM
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My what an interesting and enlightening post,I never knew,and had other assumptions.
How long does the process take to get rid of the velvet,,We still have velvet bucks, at least up to a couple hours ago a couple of years ago i had a very big 8 point that i watched all summer long feed every day in my bean field. this deer was about a 150inch gross 8pt.every day i watched him through binos at a distance walk by my tree stand at 20 yards. i was pumped to say the least.then 1 morning about 2 or 3 weeks before the season opened right after daylight i saw the buck with a little spot of velvet hanging off his antler.that night i returned to the field and right at dark like clockwork the big buck came out but this time all the velvet was gone and his horns where bloody!! so in about 12 hours he had shed all his velvet. that was the last time i ever saw that deer he left after that and as far as i know no 1 killed that deer? so i think if any of u guys out there are not getting bucks on your cameras right now just wait a little longer once that velvets gone they will start moving around some.
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#2064729 - 09/10/10 08:09 AM
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Actual tree rubbing is a social communication behavior.
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#2064907 - 09/10/10 10:01 AM
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Actual tree rubbing is a social communication behavior. Exactly and usually doesnt occur until all the velvet is long gone!
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#2065124 - 09/10/10 12:25 PM
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Actual tree rubbing is a social communication behavior. Exactly and usually doesnt occur until all the velvet is long gone!
Yup. You will see some rubbing behavior any time bucks are in hard antler, but rubbing activity usually peaks about 2-3 weeks before peak breeding.
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