#2043344 - 08/24/10 08:12 AM
Re: Might want to look for red oaks
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But,if there are whites around,will they be interested in red/black,oaks?
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#2043404 - 08/24/10 08:56 AM
Re: Might want to look for red oaks
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But,if there are whites around,will they be interested in red/black,oaks? I am still a greenhorn in the hunting world, but from my understanding, once White Oak acorns are falling... deer ignore almost all other food sources.
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#2043423 - 08/24/10 09:03 AM
Re: Might want to look for red oaks
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I have emptyed out a lot of doe stomachs in early bow season, wondered to myself why not one kind of oak persay white oaks only in there.Those deer love to rome on there way to bed. Then theres those red oaks they have in there stomachs they eat whole.
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#2043452 - 08/24/10 09:37 AM
Re: Might want to look for red oaks
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It's impossible to predict what a deer is going to eat, but in general, they seem to prefer white oaks, swamp white oaks, and chinkapin oaks (all members of the white oak family) over species in the red oak family (northern red oak, southern red oak, black oak, blackjack oak, pin oak) to name a few. Chestnut oaks can be very productive, but usually only very early in the season and only until the whites start dropping.
The best thing you can do this far in advance of the season opening is to make note of locations and species of trees with good acorn crops and check them for feeding sign just prior to the season. Even when there are lots of trees dropping, deer will key in on certain ones (what I call dominant trees). Find the dominant tree in an area and you will find the deer.
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#2043560 - 08/24/10 10:51 AM
Re: Might want to look for red oaks
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The black and pin are very closely related, the leaves look almost the same.
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#2043596 - 08/24/10 11:21 AM
Re: Might want to look for red oaks
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Generally, species in the white oak family have lower tannin content than those in the red family, hence are less bitter. However, most white oak varieties go to root in late fall or early winter, while most red oak varieties don't go to root until spring.
White oak variety acorns "fatten" deer up in fall, but red oak acorns carry the deer through the winter.
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#2043616 - 08/24/10 11:29 AM
Re: Might want to look for red oaks
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Whites are definitely more preferred by the deer, but they will eat whichever is readily available.
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#2043713 - 08/24/10 12:43 PM
Re: Might want to look for red oaks
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My pecan is loaded up this year and about ready to fall.
Squirrls let me know when they are ready!!!
They are pulling them off now and eating into them jsut to find they are not ready and drop the pecan to try another one.
Very few are actually ready by the hull I see them leaving behind
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#2043726 - 08/24/10 01:00 PM
Re: Might want to look for red oaks
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Generally, species in the white oak family have lower tannin content than those in the red family, hence are less bitter. With chestnut oaks being an exception. They are very high in tannic acid, which is why deer will feed on them until something else becomes available.
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#2043918 - 08/24/10 03:44 PM
Re: Might want to look for red oaks
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Generally, species in the white oak family have lower tannin content than those in the red family, hence are less bitter. However, most white oak varieties go to root in late fall or early winter, while most red oak varieties don't go to root until spring.
White oak variety acorns "fatten" deer up in fall, but red oak acorns carry the deer through the winter.
good to know.
Pursuit Hunter I hope you're right about the chestnut oaks. Thats where I'm gonna be opening morning.
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