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#2046347 - 08/26/10 07:42 AM Re: Any one using a plot watcher [Re: JCDEERMAN]
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 Originally Posted By: JCDEERMAN
We only hunt food plots to take does. Where we are, you have to get off the fields a ways to kill mature bucks. Yes, we have gotten several pictures of them in daylight in fields, but not enough to make anyone want to sit over a field hoping for a mature buck


Our situation exactly JCDEERMAN. Ridge-and-hollow hardwoods with a few scattered food plots. No mature buck has ever been killed from a food plot, even though our food plots are hunted (primarily for does).
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#2046350 - 08/26/10 07:43 AM Re: Any one using a plot watcher [Re: turkinator]
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 Originally Posted By: turkinator

Hey BSK, I wish you had a little better quality camera. I would like to zoom in and see what is causing that hump on that little buck's back


Nice pictures, aren't they! ;\) Those are actually from the new Uway NT50B black-flash camera.
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#2046365 - 08/26/10 07:57 AM Re: Any one using a plot watcher [Re: Tomahawk]
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 Originally Posted By: Tomahawk
30 feet = 10 yards. They look like they are 10 feet away... but you may have them zoomed for easier view.


Those are "actual pixel" crops from the original images. The original images are too large to post on this forum, but here they are downsized to fit most computer screens:






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I will say this, if these same deer were only 30 feet (10 yds) from my camera, I would have no problem getting the details I need. Now if it was for professional publishing, well it may not get the stamp of approval. By the way how old is your friends computer? It may at fault here for the picture quality... \:D


It's physically impossible for the PlotWatcher to produce images of this quality. At 1.3 MP, you only have a limited number of pixels to work with.

I've seen several examples of Plotwatcher images, all from professional deer managers. And for what professional deer managers use cameras for--keeping a running inventory of individual bucks--the Plotwatcher won't cut it.

But as a scouting tool, or as a tool to figure out where to put an actual trail-camera, the product has real promise.
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#2046918 - 08/26/10 04:52 PM Re: Any one using a plot watcher [Re: BSK]
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 Originally Posted By: BSK
 Originally Posted By: Tomahawk
30 feet = 10 yards. They look like they are 10 feet away... but you may have them zoomed for easier view.


Those are "actual pixel" crops from the original images. The original images are too large to post on this forum, but here they are downsized to fit most computer screens:






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I will say this, if these same deer were only 30 feet (10 yds) from my camera, I would have no problem getting the details I need. Now if it was for professional publishing, well it may not get the stamp of approval. By the way how old is your friends computer? It may at fault here for the picture quality... \:D


It's physically impossible for the PlotWatcher to produce images of this quality. At 1.3 MP, you only have a limited number of pixels to work with.

I've seen several examples of Plotwatcher images, all from professional deer managers. And for what professional deer managers use cameras for--keeping a running inventory of individual bucks--the Plotwatcher won't cut it.

But as a scouting tool, or as a tool to figure out where to put an actual trail-camera, the product has real promise.
Yes those are some high quality pics you posted there. I really should of focus more on the scouting aspect instead of pic quality. I guess what I was trying to relay is the pictures off the plotwatcher are clear enough to see the animals and if they are within say 40 yds are less you can get a good enough idea of rack size but much better idea of body traits. But I'm like you, I believe the scouting aspects (inside the woods) is where the money is with this early version by the company that put it out. It will convert pictures from .avi to .wmv when I post some pictures, which as you may know will worsen the quality but when viewing as .avi it is clear enough for your average hunter. JMO

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#2046953 - 08/26/10 05:35 PM Re: Any one using a plot watcher [Re: Tomahawk]
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Again, as a wide-area scouting tool, it has promise. But it only takes daylight pictures. Some mature bucks rarely if ever travel during daylight, except perhaps around the rut.

Last year, I got over 50 pictures of this 5 1/2 year-old buck from September 1 through January 1. Yet not one of those pictures--NOT ONE--was during daylight.





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#2047255 - 08/26/10 09:53 PM Re: Any one using a plot watcher [Re: BSK]
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I find it amazing how different deer can be from one area to another. I've been lucky to hunt in several parts of the state and in Kentucky and Missouri. In middle Tn you can forget seeing mature deer in fields during daylight after season starts. The first time I ever sat watching a standing bean field in Dec in West Tn, I had a 4.5 yo hoss come out 45 min before daylight. The deer in Western Ky and Northern Missouri seem to think nothing of crossing fields in the rut or late season. I'm sure the limited gun season in those states has something to do with that. The point is, deer are very adaptable and amazing creatures and that's what makes them so fun to hunt.

Edited by mrw (08/26/10 09:54 PM)

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